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School Shooting Survivors Demand Stricter Gun Control
February 21, 2018
With heavy hearts, students, who have become citizen lobbyists, met with lawmakers on Tuesday with one goal – to urge the passage of gun control measures.
Hoping their tragic stories will spur lawmakers to act, a small group of Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School students went door-to-door asking senators and representatives to put aside their partisan differences and act.
However, a move to push a bill banning assault weapons and high capacity magazines directly to the House floor was rejected on mostly party lines.
Ashley Santoro, a junior at Marjory Stoneman Douglas, said she’s trying to cope, but is saddened by the response at the State Capitol.
“I’ve been, like, OK, but, you know, it’s just, this isn’t what I really thought it would be, because people really just are out for themselves,” she stated.
House Bill 219, which prohibits the sale, transfer or possession of large capacity magazines and assault weapons including AR-15s, was rejected by a vote of 36 to 71 in the Republican-controlled House.
Buses of additional students from Marjory Stoneman Douglas are expected to arrive Wednesday in Tallahassee, where the students will walk from the Leon County Civic Center to the State Capitol to continue their advocacy.
Trying to hold back tears, Santoro said it’s important for policy makers to listen.
“I want people to know what it was like for those who really went through it and why we’re fighting for what we are fighting for,” she stressed. “I want to help them try to find a middle ground between both parties, because as it stands, we are just as polarized as ever, and we can’t have that if we’re going to be unified.”
Some Republican Senate leaders are preparing a bill that would limit assault weapon sales to those 21 and older, and place a three-day waiting period on rifle purchases.
But the measures fall short of the complete ban on the sale and transfer of assault weapons that is being advocated by Democrats and Douglas High students.
by The Florida News Connection
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38 Responses to “School Shooting Survivors Demand Stricter Gun Control”
CONSIDERING:
“…when laws concerning abortion are made almost exclusively by men?”
How do you give voice to a fetus?
David for listening
@Caraway: Too funny. Now let’s try some reading comprehension. Go back and look at my original post. Do you see all the question marks? That means I’m seeking information, not giving input. When you gave me some information, I thanked you for it. I’m not sure how I got put on blast.
And I think the thing I am most unclear about still stands. It seems that people have accepted restrictions on some weapons, like fully automatic rifles, but they’re unwilling to accept the same restrictions on semi-automatic rifles. I don’t understand why.
If you’re going to give yourself an aneurysm, don’t bother answering.
Peace!
Lord love the Democratic Party. The guns can’t vote, the statues can’t vote….just appease the liberals….they can vote, and the Dems need to build their base.
I really hate this, and other shootings that have happened. I feel our society has deteriorated due to a Godless society, families that exist in name only, no knowledge of history, uncontrolled immigration (more voters,) violent video games, bloody Hollywood movies, drugs legal or otherwise, biased news media that does not report news but spews political opinion. Kids who have not “earned their stripes” don’t need to be dictating to me what I need to do in regard to my constitutional rights. They are mere lemmings following the liberal herd trying to lead us off the proverbial cliff. Sort of like the “peaceniks” of the ’60’s….gotta have a cause.
I don’t live in a gated, affluent community in a south Florida paradise. I live in a rural area where my firearm, an AR-15, is like a tool, to be used how it is intended, hopefully for nothing other than coyotes.
@Simmerdown “laws concerning abortion are made almost exclusively by men”
Voted in by a population that’s 51% female…..
“I’ll look into the 2nd amendment not covering grenades. I didn’t know that”
thank you for admitting you have no clue what the second amendment covers. What gives you even the slightest inclination you can give any input on the subject? Maybe we should start with banning ghost guns that can disperse a 30-caliber clip with 30 bullets within half a second.
Molon Labe
REGARDING:
“…are made almost exclusively by men?”
Almost exclusively means NOT exclusively. Many of these men are taking orders from their wives.
David for obedient husbands
@Caraway Thanks for the input. I’ll look into the 2nd amendment not covering grenades. I didn’t know that.
Do you find any hypocrisy in arguing that kids shouldn’t have a voice in determining gun laws because they can’t own a gun, when laws concerning abortion are made almost exclusively by men?
Peace!
Is it just me or does anyone else not find it odd that we haven’t heard anything about the Las Vegas massacre, IN MONTHS, seems the FBI can’t find any information in that case, local police can’t find anything, there just are no leads.
But, the Parkland shooting, inside of 4 days we know…
Cruz had been kicked out of 6 schools, because of his violent behavior.
BCSD had received 39 calls to the Cruz house, Domestic Violence, Child Abuse, Mentally Ill Individual, etc. 20 calls on Cruz himself inside of 2 years, violence, threats of violence, threats on social media.
FBI had received 2 calls, one in September, one on January 5th, Information wasn’t forwarded to the Miami Field Office.
Cruz was living with a friend’s family, had been told he had to lock his guns up and give them the key. He apparently had a copy made.
Family talked him into seeing a psychiatrist, just visited the shrink 3 weeks before the shooting.
And, now we have bus loads of survivors organized to testify at the capital, buses lined up, drivers, chaperones, meals, lodging, all the media outlets notified, students interviewed by the media, times arranged to speak, speeches prepared, and rehearsed.
Does anybody else not find that odd???
May 18, 1927 Andrew Kehoe bombed a school in bath township, Michigan.
Killing 45 and injuring over 50.
Evil has been with us a long time. As far back as Man’s first sin. Evil will find a way. There just seems to be a lot more people surrendering to him.
@simmerdown “is it a violation of the 2nd Amendment to prohibit the sale of fully automatic rifles? RPG’s? Grenades?”
1.Fully automatic weapons are still perfectly legal for purchase given the proper paperwork and money.
2. The second amendment protects your right to bear arms, not explosives.
Also, I love the fact that these kids aren’t old or responsible enough to purchase a firearm under the purposed policy yet we’re supposed to make laws based on their input….
@Robert
Knife-wielding attackers kill 29, injure 130 at China train station
By Ralph Ellis, CNN
Follow the logic:
(1) A person bent on harming others without harming himself will seek any advantage that helps that happen.
(2) Gun-free zones are filled with people who to be law-abiding must be unarmed.
(3) A person cannot willingly give the right to self-defense over to the state.
(4) If an armed person intent on harming others can violate 1 gun-free zone, then any person armed person intent on harming others can violate any gun-free zone.
(5) If an armed person intent only the morally right action of self-defense wishes to stay prepared to do so, they must violate the law in order to remain defensible while in a gun-free zone.
therefore, since gun free zones create the moral quandry of forcing a good citizen intent on keeping the peace to break the law in order to be prepared to do so, it can be concluded that gun-free zones are immoral and must be discarded.
If the state will not discard gun-free zones, then the moral action of being prepared is correct and the gun-free zone must be ignored.
or to use a similar argument: Was Rosa Parks wrong for sitting in front?
History records that she was correct.
It has been demonstrated repeatedly that our children are being sacrificed on the altar of the false security of the gun-free zone, in order to create an outcry against guns.
Why then, when it is gun-free zones which are hanging giant targets on the backs of our children, do we not question the originators of the gun-free zone policies which are killing our children?
okay, what i said b4. outlaw guns and only outlaws have guns. i will omit the political stuff this time.
I saw something on the news where the marching kids want a mandatory 7 day waiting period for all firearms. How would that have stopped this last shooting? The guy bought the gun a year ago. How bout we just take every gun away from every law abiding citizen? Then only criminals will have guns and the violent crime rate will skyrocket but also mass murders won’t stop. They’ll just use vehicles to run over a bunch of kids when school lets out. Or they’ll get a gun illegally to mow everyone down. The powers that be should be ashamed of themselves for using a tragedy to push a agenda and a bunch of kids as political puppets.
It aint guns or knives or firecrackers. Young people don’t respect anybody any more. They’ve been taught this via television, video games, and society. “You don’t have to do anything you don’t want to do” theory of parenting has come full circle. Too many Fatherless homes. Grandparents are marginalized as old-fashioned. The problem at hand is a lot bigger than availability of guns.
@Kate
As has been suggested to you many times before on this very forum, if our Second Amendment Right is that repugnant to you, there are plenty other countries you can move to.
There are far more children killed each year by abortion, and leftists sit silent…they think it’s a wonan’s “right” to murder babies.
Illegals cross the boarder and some commit rapes/murders/death related DUI’s/ smuggle drugs that kill Americans, etc., but to leftists, they have a “right” to be here.
Why are some killings here so abhorrent to you and others perfectly acceptable…especially when your “acceptable” ways kill FAR more than gun violence?
Why do leftists have to lie about and inflate the number of deaths related to firearms vs. other means that take many times the number a year than by guns?
Lets make a law that says you can’t have 1st amendment rights(freedom of speech) until your 21. Or make a law that says you don’t have any 4th( illegal search and seizure) amendment rights until you are 21. Forks don’t make people fat, and a law won’t stop a killer. Don’t tread on my rights and say it’s for everyone’s good. Don’t pee on my leg and tell me it’s raining!
guns outlawed only outlaws have guns. these kids do not know that. like someone said, they are being used by the bleeding heart liberal media to try to outlaw guns and subvert the Constitution. just like the judges Trump has not been able to get rid of on the Supreme Court. Those liberal judges will, if not stopped, bring this country to ruin. To render us all into defenseless sheep is the master plan. Study Noam Chomsky’s opinions on the concentration of wealth and power, taking away our guns is one of the imperatives of that plan.
@Bama and many others, Is it possible for you to focus on one thing at a time? Let’s talk about semi-automatic rifles for a minute. Why are you so intent on pivoting away from the topic? We’re not talking about abortion, cell phones, evil, or SSRI drugs.
Is it a violation of the 2nd Amendment to end the sale of semi-automatic rifles? I predict many of you will say that it is. If so, is it a violation of the 2nd Amendment to prohibit the sale of fully automatic rifles? RPG’s? Grenades?
It seems that people have accepted restrictions on some weapons, but they’re unwilling to give up semi-automatic rifles. I don’t understand why.
Thanks for any reasoned answers!
Peace!
As a teenager, I would never have been allowed to scream and shout at any adult, let alone lawmakers at the state capital! This group was a total turn off for me and I am a citizen of FL at home. The politicians are using this group of children for their own agenda and it is disgusting! .
Democrats focus on inanimate objects, rather than the beings who utilize these objects.
Why no focus on people, as people are the problem?
Nobody is suggesting we disarm our citizens. The suggestion is to get rid of weapons like the AR-15 which are designed for killing as many people as possible in a short of a time as possible.
No citizen needs this type of weapon.
@Jim
That’s exactly what’s happening. It’s pretty obvious from watching CNN that they are seeking these kids out and making it seem as if every single student in the school thinks the same way.
in 2007 the Virginia Tech shooter killed I think 32 students with pistols so if that can be done with pistols explain to me how banning AR 15 will help. I DONT GET IT
For those that say “this is a people problem, not a gun problem.” I agree that every person is responsible for their actions and that this is where the problem starts.
However, in my opinion, this is more than just a people problem. If you see a headline “22 killed/ 47 wounded in a school/park/bar/concert, etc.” When you see this headline, you know a couple of things without looking at the details. You know that we have a people problem, and you also know what kind of weapon was used in this crime.
I don’t recall seeing any headlines of any mass knifings.
Pretty sad to see how these kids are being manipulated during their time of grief and shock.
Not a single one cared about gun control before, so what does that tell you?
will someone please explain this classification they are trying to call “assault” weapons? Is not every “weapon” an assault weapon? I always thought they were firearms and none of mine have ever “assaulted” anyone at all. I’m all for some better controls for gun purchases but it’s only going to work for over-the-counter purchases at best. To try and ban a single type of gun based on a few idiots is like these people who think that all pitbulls should be eradicated because of a few irresponsible owners who train their dogs to be vicious. For a change I’m glad that our political leaders aren’t falling for the knee-jerk reaction that a small portion of society expects to happen. Meanwhile, my firearms are still sitting right where I left them last and they haven’t gone rogue to “assault” anyone.
1.) While I understand that these children are grieving and fightened, I believe that it’s shameful for some of the mainstream media and liberal politicians to be using them as props to push the left’s agenda to disarm our citizens, and yet not address school safety from a preventive standpoint.
2.) We really need to stop using the term “assault rifle” or “assault weapon” in respect to the AR-15. If this were truly an assault weapon, why does no military in the world issue it to its troops? “Assault rifle” is a political term developed to cast this customizable sporting rifle in a negative light and, therefore, its owners as well.
Silly children, NRA controls Florida house and Senate. Corcoran and boys took all debate on gun control off the table. For the people alright.
Murderers will find a way to murder. Taking guns away from law abiding citizens will change nothing. Take every firearm from every person and who has guns? Answer: Police and Criminals. The FBI gave more grief to the person who reported this school shooter than they did the actual shooter. (They admitted it). Until we quit drugging children with psychotropic meds and get rid of bloody violent video games, we can expect more school murders. We reap what we sow. As for schools, if a school didn’t have in place, an active security program like keeping doors locked and limiting access by non students, as a parent, I’d not let my child attend that school.
These kids, while well meaning, are not old enough to remember that we HAD an Assault Weapons Ban for 10 years, and it had ZERO Effect on reducing Gun Violence, which makes sense since ALL RIFLES are used in less than 4% of Homicides. And it doesn’t take an Algebra Major to figure out that there is very little difference between ONE 30-Round Magazine, TWO 15-Round Magazines and THREE 10-Round Magazines. It sakes about 1-2 seconds to reload. Raising the minimum age for buying Semi-automatic Assault weapons to 21 will have no effect, the Florida Shooter was the only recent case of someone under 21 using one. Dylan Roof killed his own mother to get his gun, do you honestly think he won’t figure out how to get an AR just because he’s not 21?.
Gun Owners, like me, are sickened by these School Shootings, but please offer some Proposals that will have a real effect on recusing Gun Violence, and not just pass these poorly thought-out Laws that will only effect Law Abiding Gun Owners.
For instance, increasing the Security of Schools, including a single Point of Entry, guarded by Armed Guards, and equipped with metal detectors is a good start. Allowing Faculty to carry is another positive step. Increasing funding for Mental Health care and re-opening the Mental Health treatment Centers that were closed decades ago, also a good step.
Not a gun problem !!!! It’s is a people problem . A gun will not work unless a ( person) pulls the trigger to shoot it END OF STORY !!!!!!!
Want to stop the shootings? Ban SSRI drugs. Almost every mass shooter was on them. Don’t take away law-abiding citizens’ right to defend themselves against riots (remember LA?) or an over-reaching government. Mass shootings are someone unique to the US not because of guns, but because of SSRI drugs marketed straight to the consumer and doctors hand out samples like candy.
My sympathy goes to the victims and their families. No one should ever have to deal with that.
I surmise that these same people would not support an all out ban on cell phones due to the high rate of death and destruction caused by cell phone induced distracted driving. That would be unfair!
In my humble opinion that problem has taken way more innocent lives than all gun deaths over the last few years; it’s just not as provable or documented in the press. They would, in that case, declare that it was individuals that made poor decisions, individuals that disregarded the safety of themselves and others.
To be clear: I’m not calling for a ban on assault cell phones. But I do think you should have to be 21 to be in possession of one.
When tradagy happens as it will, it is a time to morn the victums and pray for the familys and personal strength.
Yes evil exist and always has. We can not understand why, but do need to understand that it exist.
There is no law that can prevent evil.
In every case where someone has killed inicents they have violated the biggest law we have: They have commited premeditated murder.
Why would anyone expect these evil people to obay any other new lesser laws……
It is past time for people to take responsibility for themselves. It appears that several young people that were familiar with the last shooter were in a position to possibily stop him. Waiting for someone, some government to take action obviously did not work.
Regardless of laws, drugs, guns or anything else can be had if wanted in this country even when illeagle.
Restrictive laws that penalize
There seems to be rising up a generation of young people who will think for themselves (and for those coming after them) and “beat their swords into plowshares.” What a breath of fresh air.
I will never understand why every single citizen (or repeat felon if you go to a gunshow) is given the right to own the types of weapons and high capacity magazines that seem to be used in most of theses mass shootings.
Hoping for change
Guns certainly need to be kept out of the wrong hands, but why doesn’t anyone DEMAND better parenting? Let’s just tell the truth. That is the bottom line. When people do not value the life of someone else, then no amount of “gun laws,” “drug laws,” “mental health laws,” etc. can help them with this.
Good parents who teach love, truth, respect, kindness and consequences of actions is what our country needs!
While these kids are protesting against guns, maybe they will also protest against the three thousand or so people killed each day in auto accidents and also the three thousand babies aborted each day in the United States.
Vote them out!!!!
Vote them out of office!!!