State Faces Legal Tab In ‘Docs Vs. Glocks’ Fight

July 25, 2017

Florida will pay $1.1 million in legal fees to attorneys who challenged a controversial state law that sought to prevent doctors from asking patients about guns, a group representing opponents said Monday.

The Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence announced the legal-fees agreement more than five months after a federal appeals court sided with doctors and medical groups in striking down key parts of the 2011 law — which became known as the “docs vs. glocks” law. The state did not appeal the Feb. 16 decision by the full 11th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.

A copy of the legal-fees agreement had not been posted in an online court file Monday morning. But documents indicate the state and the law’s opponents had been in mediation on the fees.

The law, which was backed by groups such as the National Rifle Association, included a series of restrictions on doctors and health providers. For example, it sought to prevent physicians from entering information about gun ownership into medical records if the physicians knew the information was not “relevant” to patients’ medical care or safety or to the safety of other people.

Also, the law said doctors should refrain from asking about gun ownership by patients or family members unless the doctors believed in “good faith” that the information was relevant to medical care or safety. Also, the law sought to prevent doctors from discriminating against patients or “harassing” them because of owning firearms.

Opponents argued, in part, that the law violated free-speech rights. The full appeals court found that the record-keeping, inquiry and anti-harassment parts of the law were unconstitutional, but upheld the portion of the law that bars doctors from discriminating against patients who have guns.

“Legislators across the country should learn from Florida’s example that if you side with the corporate gun lobby instead of your constituents, you endanger the safety of children and families, impinge upon First Amendment rights of doctors, and force taxpayers to pay millions to unsuccessfully defend unconstitutional laws,” Jonathan Lowy, director of the Brady Center’s Legal Action Project and an attorney in the case, said in a prepared statement Monday. “Thankfully, in this case justice prevailed and the court recognized that doctors have a First Amendment right to tell the truth about guns, and the risks they can pose to children and families.”

When asked for comment Monday about the legal fees, John Tupps, a spokesman for Gov. Rick Scott, said in an email that Scott signed the 2011 law after it “was approved by a large, bipartisan majority in the Florida Legislature.”

“Governor Scott is a strong supporter of the Second Amendment,” Tupps said. “Much of this law was either never challenged or upheld in court. This (legal fees) settlement is in accordance with Florida law and a recommendation from the Department of Financial Services.”

The challenge to the law was filed in June 2011 and played out over nearly six years. A U.S. District Court judge blocked the law from taking effect, but a three-judge panel of the appeals court upheld the law in three rulings before the full appeals court agreed to take up the case.

Supporters of the law said it was necessary to prevent doctors, such as pediatricians, from harassing and discriminating against patients and parents about gun ownership. The also described the law, formally known as the Firearm Owners’ Privacy Act, as a Second Amendment issue.

But Douglas Hallward-Driemeier, an attorney with the firm Ropes & Gray, who argued the case for the plaintiffs, said in a prepared statement Monday that the case allows doctors to “go back to giving their best advice to patients when it comes to gun safety.”

“From day one in bringing this case, our commitment has been to protect doctors’ First Amendment rights to ensure the safety of individuals, families and communities in Florida,” Hallward-Driemeier said. “The successful resolution of the litigation and subsequent fees and costs award are both critical to furthering that goal.”

by The News Service of Florida

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3 Responses to “State Faces Legal Tab In ‘Docs Vs. Glocks’ Fight”

  1. David Huie Green on July 28th, 2017 1:39 pm

    REGARDING:
    “This article never stated who originated this law; was it the American Medical Association or the Govt.?”

    Actually, it did.
    “The law, which was backed by groups such as the National Rifle Association, included a series of restrictions on doctors and health providers.”

    Florida’s legislators passed the law at the request and encouragement of the National Rifle Association for the purpose of the state being able to punish doctors for saying things the government didn’t want said, asking questions the government didn’t want asked.

    It doesn’t matter if the questions were wise or foolish.
    It matters that our government wanted to silence some of us.

    David for limited government

  2. Duns Megus on July 27th, 2017 10:47 pm

    There is an historically accepted principle in the academic consideration of Ethics (not the capital E): The Principle of Double Effect: If someone asks a question that is none of their business, the respondent may tell the questioner anything they please. Since the questioner has asked something they have no right to know, their failure to understand the answer as a rejection of their right to know and instead accepts it as the truth, their misunderstanding is their fault.

    E.g., a parent who has an arsenal in their home is on solid ethical ground Telling a pediatrician, “Oh, we’re card-carrying members of the Lunatic Left and we think guns ought to be taken away from law enforcement officers and the Army!”

  3. Sick N. Tired on July 26th, 2017 8:03 am

    Does anyone really think that questioning patients about gun ownership has anything to do with “family safety”? This is just more of government getting involved in private citizen’s personal business in order to intimidate now and keep records to confiscate later. Just a bunch of left over Obama b.s. My first amendment right guarantees me that if the question of whether there are guns in my home I answer “that’s none of your business”. This article never stated who originated this law; was it the American Medical Association or the Govt.? Folks need to wake up and stop being led like sheep to the slaughterhouse when it comes to our natural born rights. Otherwise, before long, they’ll be history.

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