Debate Over Capital Christmas Displays Quieter This Year

December 8, 2015

Visitors to the Florida Capitol likely won’t see a Nativity scene this year. They also won’t see a protest display from the Satanic Temple.

However, they could see a menorah. And an irreverent disco ball-topped, multi-colored gay pride festivus pole — built of beer cans — might still be on tap.

A Christian group that has put up Nativity scenes the past two years said Friday it won’t bring a creche to the Capitol rotunda for Christmas. As a result, the New York-based Satanic Temple, which doesn’t really worship the devil but argues for separation of church and state, announced it also won’t put up a display.

Pam Olsen, president of the Florida Prayer Network, announced that her group’s decision not to set up a Nativity scene is an attempt to bring some needed civility to the country struggling with issues such as mass shootings and growing racial tensions.

“America is in desperate need of God’s help! We need to love God, love one another again, have hope and peace in our hearts, to act kindly and be civil to one another — this is the message of the Nativity!” Olsen said in an open letter Friday. “After much prayer, I truly want the message of Christ, The Son of God, born in a manger so long ago in Bethlehem, to be heard very clearly at this difficult time, instead of the dissension in the Capitol rotunda — this is not the year for that kind of debate in our rotunda.”

The addition of a Nativity scene two years ago attracted an array of counter-displays from atheists and groups that argue for the separation of church and state.

The-often-flippant displays included the sitcom-inspired festivus holiday pole and a decorated heap of rope symbolizing the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, which is more often associated with opposition to the introduction of creationism and intelligent design in public schools than the year-end holidays.

The Satanic Temple said its decision to stay away from the Capitol this year could change if any other group asks to put a Christian display.

“As the assertion of plurality is always primary in our holiday displays, and many of our activities, we feel that our Satanic Holiday displays work best in a forum where a Nativity is present,” the Satanic Temple said in an email. “Without a Nativity display we haven’t been properly motivated to apply for a display of our own. Should the decision to not set up a Nativity be reversed at any point, however, we have a beautiful display at the ready.”

The Department of Management Services, which oversees displays at the Capitol, rejected an application in 2013 for the temple’s falling-angel diorama, deeming it “grossly offensive.” The diorama, however, was approved last year and led to an incident in which a Tallahassee woman was accused of attempting to damage the display. A criminal-mischief charge was later dropped.

Natalee Singleton, spokeswoman for the state Department of Management Services, said the only applications that had been submitted as of Monday morning were for a menorah display by the Chabad Lubavitch of the Panhandle-Tallahassee and for a festivus pole display by Chaz Stevens, a political blogger from Deerfield Beach.

“Our Gay Pride Festivus Pole is a jubilant, may I say happy and gay, celebration of (the Supreme Court of the United States) recent ruling regarding same sex marriage,” said Stevens, who describes himself as a white heterosexual ally of the gay community. “Also, at the same time, we’re raising awareness to the problem of young LGBTQ men and women who are bullied and harassed.”

Festivus is a “holiday” created for the TV sitcom “Seinfeld” as a non-commercial festival “for the rest of us” in the Christmas and year-end holiday season. Festivus, celebrated Dec. 23, comes with a ceremonial post-dinner “airing of the grievances” in which participants describe how they have been disappointed by others in the past year and engage in “feats of strength.”

Stevens, building off his festivus poles — stacked empty Pabst Blue Ribbon cans — that he first got approval to set up in the Capitol in 2013, said he has also applied to put similar poles in the state houses in Georgia, Illinois, Oklahoma, Arkansas and Michigan.

“We’re a national effort at irreverence,” Stevens said.

by Jim Turner, The News Service of Florida

Pictured top: The Nativity display last year in the Florida Capitol. NorthEscambia.com file photo, click to enlarge.

Comments

9 Responses to “Debate Over Capital Christmas Displays Quieter This Year”

  1. chris in Molino on December 9th, 2015 1:51 am

    Chris in brandon
    Nope. I have no illusions at all. The U.S. is definately not a christian nation (anymore) thanks to the government. I don’t believe anyone should be persecuted for their religious beliefs. However, while i feel heathens have the right to go to hell if they so choose, the majority of people are christian. This country was founded, built by, and flourished under christian men and women with the help of our God (the only God) and his son Jesus. Therefore, it should be the only religious display. It’s about the birth of the Son, not the devil, not budda, not some big black rock, or any of that. Most people didn’t know what a muslim was until September 11. Its people like you who have perverted and destroyed what MY forefathers built here that with the help of the government in all it’s wisdom. It’s been their plan for some time though so i’m sure you’ll get your way. They say laugh now cry later though. Playing with my God will surely make it true.

  2. Retired on December 8th, 2015 11:34 am

    Glad that all the religious groups in the Capitol are tableing these religious opinions and concentrating on more Important government business. Makes them seem more intelligent.

  3. James R on December 8th, 2015 11:04 am

    It’s ridiculous that a New York based organization is allowed the option to set up a display at the Florida capital. The capital should be solely reserved for Floridians. The state legislature could pass a bill stating exactly this! Attention Greg Evers!!!

  4. ProudArmyParent on December 8th, 2015 7:28 am

    Politically correctness, is common sense STUPID. This America, it should NOT be offensive to display a crèche at CHRISTmas time. Did we not just have Thanksgiving, if I remember my history right, and I believe I do the Pilgrims arrived on these shores seeking religious freedom. It amazes me how far we have gotten form those times and beliefs.

    It is kinda like President Obama stating, “The Charlie Brown Christmas Special is about a little tree”. He must have missed Linus’ telling Charlie Brown what CHRISTmas is all about!

  5. THE DOER on December 8th, 2015 6:29 am

    It’s amazing to me how people who could care less about God and His commandments are the first to want to “celebrate” Christmas. You people need to study history. Christmas is all about the birth of Christ. If you are so far from from His teachings, why do you even celebrate it? Christmas is a holiday for those who believe and worship Jesus Christ as the son of God. How sad that our country has catapulted into a modern version of Sodom and Gomorrah, where we cannot even mention Jesus without also mentioning or recognizing satan, Santa and advocates of sodomy.

  6. chris in brandon on December 8th, 2015 6:05 am

    So Chris, I guess you’re one of those that believe that the US is a christian nation and that all others should be persecuted? Sorta of like Iran is with non muslims?

  7. Mike from Jay on December 8th, 2015 5:08 am

    I agree with Chris from molino..I hope you all enjoy what you have done to this great country and lord knows the influence you have on the younger generation , makes me sick May God forgive you all.

  8. chris in Molino on December 8th, 2015 3:29 am

    So the temple of satan doesn’t worship the devil ? Yet the only way it will set up a display regarding it’s belief is if christians set up a display. Sounds like Anti-Christ to me.

  9. chris in Molino on December 8th, 2015 3:19 am

    Well that explains exactly what is wrong with our country, our state, and our communities. We’ve become more concerned with not offending someone than for standing tall for the truth. We have become a nation of homosexuals, devil worshipers, science-fiction evolutionaries, and just plain no good. It’s like we were in a race to the finish line and everone just wandered off the track completely. I hope you weirdos enjoy your destination.