Appeals Court Upholds Doctor-Patient Gun Law

July 29, 2015

For the second time in little more than a year, a federal appeals court Tuesday upheld a controversial Florida law that restricts doctors from asking questions and recording information about patients’ gun ownership.

The 2-1 decision by a panel of the 11th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals was a victory for the National Rifle Association and other gun-rights advocates and a defeat for medical groups that argued, at least in part, that the law infringed on doctors’ First Amendment rights.

The appeals court last July also upheld the 2011 law but issued a revised ruling Tuesday. After last year’s decision, medical groups continued challenging the law, including asking for a rehearing before the entire Atlanta-based appeals court.

Dubbed the “docs vs. glocks” law, the measure includes a series of restrictions on doctors and other health providers. As an example, it seeks to prevent physicians from entering information about gun ownership into medical records if the physicians know the information is not “relevant” to patients’ medical care or safety or to the safety of other people.

As another example, the law says doctors should refrain from asking about gun ownership by patients or family members unless the doctors believe in “good faith” that the information is relevant to medical care or safety. Also, the law seeks to prevent doctors from discriminating against patients or “harassing” them because of owning firearms.

A federal district judge in 2012 sided with opponents of the law and issued an injunction against it. But the appeals court last July and again Tuesday overturned the injunction.

“The purpose of the act, as we read it, is not to protect patient privacy by shielding patients from any and all discussion about firearms with their physicians; the act merely requires physicians to refrain from broaching a concededly sensitive topic when they lack any good-faith belief that such information is relevant to the medical care or safety of their patients or others,” said the majority opinion, written by Judge Gerald Tjoflat and joined by Judge L. Scott Coogler.

But Judge Charles Wilson wrote a lengthy dissent arguing that the law violates the First Amendment rights of physicians.

“Simply put, the act is a gag order that prevents doctors from even asking the first question in a conversation about firearms,” Wilson wrote. “The act prohibits or significantly chills doctors from expressing their views and providing information to patients about one topic and one topic only, firearms.”

The Republican-dominated Legislature and Gov. Rick Scott approved the law after hearing accounts of doctors unnecessarily asking questions about gun ownership or even refusing to continue providing care if such questions were not answered.

In Tuesday’s majority opinion, Tjoflat repeatedly pointed to instances in which doctors can continue justify asking about firearms, such as in the case of a patient considered at risk of suicide.

“Thus, a physician may make inquiries as to the firearms-ownership status of any or all patients, so long as he or she does so with the good-faith belief — based on the specifics of the patient’s case — that the inquiry is relevant to the patient’s medical care or safety, or the safety of others,” the majority opinion said. “If, for example, the physician seeks firearm information to suit a personal agenda unrelated to medical care or safety, he or she would not be making a ‘good-faith’ inquiry, and so the act plainly directs him to refrain from inquiring.”

But Wilson’s dissent raised questions about whether the law stemmed from anecdotal incidents. He also argued that doctors should have the right to ask questions about guns in addressing the well-being of patients.

“There is nothing to suggest that the doctors’ inquiries or messages regarding firearms were not genuinely believed to be in the patients’ best medical interest when given,” Wilson wrote. “But there is evidence in the legislative history to suggest that the harassment provision (of the law) is designed to prevent these conversations from taking place in the future. That is certainly the result it will achieve. Doctors will largely cease inquiring into and counseling on the topic of firearms, lest they be accused of crossing the line between providing life-saving preventive medical information and promoting an anti-firearm political agenda.”

by Jim Saunders, The News Service of Florida

Comments

8 Responses to “Appeals Court Upholds Doctor-Patient Gun Law”

  1. Sedition on July 31st, 2015 7:13 pm

    The Gun Control Debate In A Nutshell:

    1. I have a gun.
    2. You don’t want me to have it.
    3. I won’t give it to you.
    4. Your move……

  2. David Huie Green on July 31st, 2015 5:21 pm

    REGARDING:
    “This is all about control!!!! Face it, the bulk of the people (sheeple) are complete morons. Sad but true.”

    I disagree.
    I don’t think most Americans are morons, not even those who think everybody else is a moron.

    Nor does it look like an attempt to control people but rather an attempt to liberate them. Those wanting to allow the doctors to doctor without being restricted in what they say or do and in favor of freedom for doctors.

    Those wanting to stop doctors from snooping into private affairs and recording their findings where any hacker or government agency might access it and use it to look behind closed doors, want to save the freedom to have things in their homes without government intrusion.

    Both want freedom from control by others.
    Neither side has to be right or wrong to hold such opinions.
    They don’t have to be morons.
    They don’t have to oppose freedom to trust or distrust government.

    David for freedom
    and high IQ Americans

  3. Little Betsy on July 30th, 2015 12:19 am

    This is all about control!!!! Face it, the bulk of the people (sheeple) are complete morons. Sad but true. Most American’s don’t give a wit about America anymore. They only care about their own self pleasure and interests and their own pocket book! American’s are really Zombies these days. They don’t care anymore!

  4. Retired on July 29th, 2015 3:52 pm

    Ask me if I feel safe at home and if I say yes, then you know.

  5. Sedition on July 29th, 2015 10:24 am

    Tell you what Doc…you don’t ask me about my firearm ownership and I won’t ask my gunsmith to check my prostate…agreed?

  6. jack on July 29th, 2015 9:14 am

    Three points.
    I’m nearly 70 years old and have never been asked about gun ownership by anyone.
    If there was something about a doctor’s questions that I didn’t like i’d find another doc.
    I don’t care who knows my ownership status nor where it’ s recorded.
    This is a non issue.

  7. Bob C. on July 29th, 2015 6:25 am

    Good….
    Wouldn’t mind discussing gun ownership with my doc on a social or personal basis.
    But, if he enters it into that computer where does the information / disclosure go from there?
    I don’t ask him about his golf game.

  8. molinoman on July 29th, 2015 1:32 am

    Good. It’s none of the doctor’s or any doctor’s business if I won guns, have one on me with concealed permit etc.

    My gun ownership has nothing to do with my exam. If my gun gets a sore throat I’ll let them know.