Scott, Crist Turn Up The Heat In Final Debate

October 22, 2014

In their final — and most heated — debate before the Nov. 4 election, incumbent Republican Gov. Rick Scott and former Gov. Charlie Crist came out swinging Tuesday night, excoriating each other’s records as the state’s chief executive and each painting his rival as out of touch with everyday Floridians.

Scott and Crist, a former Republican who left office after a single term and is now seeking his old job back as a Democrat, traded jabs over the economy, racial justice and the death penalty and drew sparks over each others’ wealth. Scott, who reported his net worth as $132.7 million last year, repeatedly contrasted his deprived childhood with that of Crist, whose father is a St. Petersburg doctor.

Scott, a former health care executive who made his fortune as the head of the Columbia/HCA hospital chain, repeatedly recalled how he grew up in public housing and how his parents struggled to pay for health insurance and Christmas presents.

“I watched a parent that lost the only family car. I watched a father struggle to buy Christmas presents. I went through that as a child. Charlie never went through that. Charlie grew up with plenty of money. He’s never had to worry about money. He has never had to worry about being laid off. Charlie has done fine in life. But what I’m going to fight for every day is what I’ve done the last three years and nine months, I’m going to fight for families like mine growing up,” Scott said.

Crist, who listed his net worth of $1.25 million last year, portrayed himself as an advocate for middle-class Floridians whose family had humble beginnings.

“He talks about that I’ve done fine in life. Listen, when I was a little kid, we lived in a small apartment in Atlanta when my dad was going to medical school and he used to delivered newspapers to make ends meet. So you don’t know me and you can’t tell my story. And I’m not going to tell yours. But I know you are worth about $100 or $200 million today,” Crist said. “And you know, God bless you for that wealth, Rick. But the way you got it was pretty unsavory. And you know, the fact that you just don’t relate to people, real people in Florida today and the struggles they have, and you won’t lower utility rates, you won’t lower property insurance, it is wrong.”

Tuesday’s hour-long debate, moderated by Jake Tapper of CNN and Kent Justice of WJXT, a Jacksonville television station where the match-up was held, was a marked contrast to last week’s meeting between the two rivals. That debate became the butt of national late-night comedy shows over a controversy regarding a small fan placed next to Crist’s feet beneath the podium. Scott refused to join Crist on stage for more than four minutes, and later accused Crist of breaking the debate rules.

In another heated moment Tuesday, Tapper asked Crist about his accusations that GOP leaders were hostile toward President Barack Obama because of his race.

Tapper asked Crist if he believed all Republicans are racists.

“No. I’m saying that element exists,” Crist said, referring obliquely to emails “distributed by some members of the Republican party” that “weren’t exactly flattering” about Obama. He said he drew flak from GOP officials because of his now-infamous embrace of Obama as governor and for taking federal stimulus money when Florida, and the rest of the country, were in the midst of an economic meltdown.

“It wasn’t right. The reaction that I have gotten from some in the Republican party, leadership, wasn’t tolerable to me,” Crist said. “And it was pretty clear to me. It wasn’t just because I was willing to work across the aisle with a Democrat to get the recovery funds to come to Florida. It was also pretty apparent to me because it was the first African-American president. Listen, I don’t enjoy saying that. It’s not what — you know, it’s not fun to say, but I’m going to tell the truth and those are the facts.”

“You’re a divider. You’re a mudslinger. You’re a divider,” Scott retorted, accusing Crist of failing to take action when he was governor. “We are the best melting pot in the world and you want to try to divide people. I want everybody to have the same shot I had to live the American dream.”

Crist blasted Scott for turning down millions of dollars for a high-speed rail project in Central Florida and for refusing to back an expansion of Medicaid, saying both would have brought thousands of jobs to the state.

“I’m action and I got things done and I’ll do it again and I’ll work with anybody — Republican, Democrat or independent,” he said

In another pointed exchange, the two candidates wrestled over the death penalty. Scott, who has signed a record number of death warrants in his first term in office, pushed lawmakers to pass a measure this spring that supporters said was aimed at speeding up the time between convictions and executions.

The question about executions prompted an intense back-and-forth between the two governors over an execution that Scott rescheduled last year at the request of Attorney General Pam Bondi. The attorney general asked to have the execution delayed because it conflicted with a fundraiser slated for the same evening for her re-election campaign.

“Now, to me, and my way of thinking, that doesn’t sound like somebody is taking that solemn duty as seriously as they should. I don’t understand that,” Crist said.

Crist interrupted Scott — who said he considers the death penalty “a solemn duty” and that he “thinks of the victims” when weighing executions — and demanded to know whether he was aware that he had canceled the execution for a fundraiser.

“It was — she asked me to delay it because it didn’t work on the dates that she thought it was going to be on,” Scott said.

Crist did not back down.

“Did you know it was for a political fundraiser?” he asked.

“Charlie, she apologized. She apologized. What would you like her to do?” Scott responded.

“I didn’t ask about her. Did you know it was for a political fundraiser?”

Scott repeated his answer.

“He doesn’t answer questions. Pleads the Fifth,” Crist finished.

Questions about racial justice wound up in a tangle over restoration of civil rights, something Crist pushed in his first few months as governor after his 2006 election.

Referring to Trayvon Martin, the 17-year-old black teenager who was gunned down by neighborhood watch volunteer George Zimmerman in Sanford, Tapper asked the candidates if they believed that African-Americans, especially young black men, get “a fair shake” in the criminal justice system.

“My goal is that they do,” Scott said, trying to discuss how he handled the Martin shooting but getting interrupted by Tapper.

“We have completely changed how we do juvenile justice. We’ve had a dramatic drop in the number of arrests since I got elected. We have the lowest recidivism out of our prison system because we put in reentry programs and we’ve helped try to make sure that if you get out of prison, you actually get a job … unlike under Charlie when you couldn’t get a job,” Scott said. “So, are we making progress? Yes. Is there more work to do? Absolutely.”

Crist disagreed. “I don’t believe they do. I think it’s sad. I think it’s very important that everybody is treated equally and get the justice they deserve,” Crist said, boasting that he worked to restore rights to non-violent felons.

“Sadly under Rick Scott, it’s gone and it’s gone for at least five years, you can’t even apply,” he said.

In one of his first actions as governor, Scott pushed the Florida Cabinet to do away with the “automatic” restoration of rights and impose one of the nation’s strictest waiting-periods before ex-felons can apply.

“Here’s Charlie’s plan. You commit a heinous crime, as soon as you get out of jail, you get to vote. Stalk, you get to vote as soon as you walk out. You have intentional permanent disfigurement of a child, you walk out of jail, you immediately get to vote,” Scott said. “That’s wrong, Charlie.”

Again, Crist fired back.

“That is fundamentally unfair. I said nonviolent criminals. You are lying again,” he said.

Tuesday evening’s angry tone — exactly two weeks before Election Day and with early voting already underway — set the stage for the candidates’ final push as they swing through the state seeking support. On Wednesday, former New York City Mayor Rudy Guiliani is slated to help kick off a Scott campaign bus tour in Doral.

Crist is slated to remain in Jacksonville and campaign with U.S. Rep. Corinne Brown.

by Dara Kam, The News Service of Florida

Images courtesy CNN for NorthEscambia.com, click to enlarge.

Comments

9 Responses to “Scott, Crist Turn Up The Heat In Final Debate”

  1. David Huie Green on October 24th, 2014 7:23 pm

    REGARDING:
    “Correct me if I’m wrong, but when you get out of jail, you’ve served your debt to society. Why shouldn’t you be able to vote?”

    Well, since you asked: You’re wrong.

    Being in jail does not “serve society” other than stop you from committing more crimes for a while and doesn’t undo the harm done and, thus, isn’t the beginning and end of the matter.

    Only a fool would blindly hire a convicted drug dealer to work in a pharmacy or place a convicted pedophile in charge of a bunch of children or give a proven thief the keys to the bank. If a person had reason to believe the convict had changed his evil ways, he might knowingly hire him for such things, but he better be pretty sure.

    There’re certain costs associated with being convicted of committing a felony. Two of those costs are loss of the right to vote and carry weapons. Sometimes jail isn’t even part of the sentence, probation or fines might be. Surely it’s obvious that probation doesn’t count as paying off the damage you’ve done. At best, It means not committing more crimes while supervised in hopes the criminal can learn to not commit crimes when nobody’s watching.

    That said, let’s consider the other side of the matter.

    Why should a convicted felon be deprived of the right to vote just because he’s in prison for grand larceny or murder or rape?

    Usually those crimes have nothing to do with whether Scott or Crist would be better governor other than the fact a convicted felon might understand them better.

    Let prisoners vote.
    If the politicians start sucking up to them, the rest of the voters can vote accordingly.

    David for committed voters

  2. northend resident on October 22nd, 2014 10:52 pm

    Sad world we live in now when this is all we have to choose from. I fear for our children of what is to come.

  3. Susan on October 22nd, 2014 8:46 pm

    Scott took 3% from state workers to put in our already healthy retirement fund so that he could do something else with the money put in for us from the state. There was no grandfathering for those workers already well into the system. I can not imagine teachers and other state employees voting for him again. If he gets back in, there will be more to come.

  4. Rufus Lowgun on October 22nd, 2014 4:07 pm

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but when you get out of jail, you’ve served your debt to society. Why shouldn’t you be able to vote? If you commit another crime and go back to jail, you lose that right again anyway. Why should you continue to be punished once you’ve served your sentence as decided by a court?

  5. molino jim on October 22nd, 2014 3:02 pm

    Ask how the people at CCI feel about Scott. Add that to the number of other state employees who now are out of the state medical insurance because their jobs have been “farmed out”. Anyone who would have taken the 5th as many times as Scott did has to be a crook. It’s to bad we can’t find another Jeb Bush.

  6. Randy on October 22nd, 2014 9:29 am

    Crist will say whatever the voters want to hear just to garner votes. With that said, I am sick and tired of all the mud slinging and I am ready to hear how each candidate is going to improve this fine state.

  7. mic hall on October 22nd, 2014 9:11 am

    Both looked TERRIBLE! Scott is just disturbing to look at on TV and Crist looks perpetually sad or depressed. Both were just snarky.

    What choice to make? It would be nice if we had someone we could actually believe would BE a good choice.

    So if we vote for one of them we get the choices of the one we have and don’t like and the one that was bad before and can’t only be trusted to do what is best for him.

  8. Kate on October 22nd, 2014 8:06 am

    Scott looked like a thumb puppet. IF he is so concerned about the poor why did instigate the urine test for the poorest of people at their cost? He has contracted out some of the most important services a state can provide. How do you call yourself a concerned Governor with his record. He isn’t even as smart as a thumb puppet. I don’t like the fraud he committed against Medicare. Once a thief always a thief.

  9. Tammy on October 22nd, 2014 5:51 am

    watched it for 2 mins and thought I was watching two middle schoolers trying to out snark each other. I will be voting LPA and NPA through the whole ballot.