10 Responses to “Florida Reported 149 Hate Crimes in 2010; Eight In Escambia, Santa Rosa”

1. Char on December 31st, 2011 11:02 am

   @Not and Whiner.
   Just because we understand there is bigotry and racists in this world
   does not make us whiners or even minorities.
   Just goes to show how much you know the people you just called
   whiners. You singled me out and called ME a name, yet I was not
   even talking about ME. I have never been called a name or complained
   about being called a name. I was talking about the racist things I hear
   on a daily basis from people in town that I don’t even know. I was talking
   about the bigotry and racist things I see every single WEEK.
   I was talking ( like darryl ) about IGNORANCE.

   The laws on this subject were written to protect people who were being
   abused by ignorance. Those laws where written for the people
   and by the people to protect people from bullies. Those laws as an
   LEO are YOURS to ENFORCE That’s what WE the PEOPLE pay you for!

   I’m sorry that some people take advantage of the laws, and cry rape when there was not rape (figure of speech), but just as you were WRONG about ME. maybe
   you are just plain WRONG sometimes, if you don’t think these things exist
   and need all the attention these laws were written for.

2. David Huie Green on December 30th, 2011 11:14 am

   REGARDING:
   “A crime is a crime.”

   Admit it, who DOESN’T like watermelon?

   Hate crimes aren’t just committed by majorities against minorities.

   In Florida defacing a place of worship is defined as a hate crime. Committing a crime while wearing a hood or mask is defined as a hate crime. Beating a homeless and/or mentally impaired fellow is defined as a hate crime.

   Killing an infant during a dispute over drug sales isn’t a hate crime because they didn’t hate the infant, just were careless shots.

   I don’t like the idea of calling some crimes hate crimes and others just crimes, but there is justification for it.

   Intentionally running over someone with a car has always been considered at least second degree murder, first degree if the driver got in the car for the express purpose of killing. Carelessly running over someone because you were texting at the time or otherwise just not paying attention is generally considered manslaughter, a lesser crime — even though you‘re still just as dead. Killing someone with a gun to kill them is considered worse than killing them just because you were playing around with the gun — even though you‘re still as dead. (For some reason trying to kill someone but failing is considered less of a crime than trying and succeeding — I guess because you‘re not dead in this case.)

   Anyhow, reasons for committing crimes have always been part of the matter. Hurting people just because you don’t like members of that group of people is considered worse than hurting them because you want to hurt them as an individual.

   David for fewer crimes

3. Not a Whiner on December 30th, 2011 7:14 am

   A crime is a crime. Why do minorities and homosexuals think that things that happen to them are always worse than when it happens to others. I am willing to bet there were more than 149 murders in Florida last year, more than 149 sexual assaults in Florida last year, but people like Darryl and Char carry on about someone calling them a name and taking away from serious crimes. I happen to be a state law enforcement officer in Florida and a minority. Law enforcement, (especially the sheriffs office) has an extremely hard job. There are deputies who do not work as hard as they should and let their personal beliefs cloud their performance, but they are few. To group all law enforcement into that group is as bigoted as saying all blacks like watermelon and draw welfare. As a minority I do not wish to be given anything that I have not earned, to include jobs. If everyone took personal responsibility and stopped using what they are as a crutch, we would not even have the low number of 149 hate crimes. Another thing that the whiners need to remember is that just because a white guy slaps a black guy it may not have anything to do with the color of the black guys skin. Is it considered a hate crime if a black guy slaps a white guy? I considered the death of Case Anthony’s child a hate crime. I considered all the women murdered by Ted Bundy a hate crime. I also consider the murder of the toddler in Pensacola village last year from a drive by shooting a hate crime. I also believe the mother who placed her child in that enviornment to be an accessory to that hate crime. Blacks and Homosexuals are not the only people in the world that have bad things happen to them and sometimes what happens to them is because they are the person they are and what they are.

4. David Huie Green on December 28th, 2011 1:52 pm

   REGARDING:
   “149 hate crimes committed in Florida during 2010, – - -more than 46 percent of the hate crimes were motivated by race, while 21.5 percent resulted from sexual orientation. The report also said 19.5 percent of hate crimes were due to religion, while ethnicity/national origin represented 12.7 percent.”

   149 x 0.46 = 69 racial hate some race against some other race, could be any race. Could be white against black, white against Asiatic, black against white, black against Asiatic, et cetera

   149 x 0.215 = 31 sexual orientation hate, somebody not liking some other’s likes, could be any orientation

   149 x 0.195 = 29 religious hatred, somebody not liking somebody else’s religion, could be any pair of religions. Several religions used to teach it was best to burn us Baptists at the stake, so things have definitely improved for us. Actually, things are way better than much of the world — if that statement isn’t an ethnically based hate crime, thinking America‘s better than some other country.

   149 x 0.127 = 19 ethnicity/national origin hate, somebody not liking somebody else’s ethnicity, could be any ethnicity. Could be Seminoles not liking Swedes, could be Cubans not liking Mexicans, could be Irish not liking Italians.

   69 + 31 + 29 + 19 = 148 of 149 I lost one somewhere

   David for the joys of statistics

5. Molino-Anon on December 28th, 2011 9:56 am

   @NotAgain, still, even if it encompasses religion, sexual orientation, etc. it’s still a very low number.

   I don’t think “hate crimes” are as elevated as most news media perpetuates. If you take into account the number of people living in Florida, with ALL the diversity, 149 “reported” hate crimes is VERY low. Even if you factor in a static law of average to the unaccounted “hate crimes” vs the number of the population in Florida, it’s still a low number.

   @Char, I agree, I mind my own business, but force me into a situation and I’ll call or do whatever necessary.

   @Bret, It is progress, 20-30 years ago you couldn’t even mention you’re sexual preference/lifestyle, today at least you can.

   I think the ones that perpetuate hate, racism, discrimination, are those that fall under those racial, sexual, religions, groups. They want to blame their downfalls and personal short-comings on society around them, or call something a hate crime when it really isn’t. I don’t think per-capita there are enough people that are deliberately targeting people under those groups. Most people just really don’t care unless it involves them.

6. darryl on December 28th, 2011 9:47 am

   NotAgain: the problem is the laws on the books are not being enforced due to those responsible sometimes being prejudiced (or worse yet, bigoted) and so we’re forced to push the issue. It was the same thing with race for we all know how some still cling to idiotic notions of one skin tone being supreme over another and how much of a battle it was to start dealing with that issue. And just as race is a lousy way to establish differences between mankind (culture and religion are better factors on differences between us) so is human sexuality, which seems to be some religions last good scapegoat in this country (some need a group to demonize to rally the faithful) which hopefully as we become more educated about evolution and not only variations between species but some variations within species such as humans. It is unfortunate we can not move past our ancient and sometimes primitive notions about our world and about ourselves and learn to accept those who are different.

7. Bert on December 28th, 2011 8:42 am

   Glad to see we’re more homophobic than racist nowadays.

   That’s progress, I guess.

8. Char on December 28th, 2011 8:34 am

   That doesn’t cover all the hate crimes that go unreported. Most people right
   here know better than to call the law, or they have more problems, and for
   the most part the Sheriffs Department does nothing anyway.
   Everyone here teaches not to make that CALL.

   Of course I can’t be bullied so I call anyone I darned well please.

9. NotAgain on December 28th, 2011 8:32 am

   I don’t believe in the concept of a “hate crime”. Anything that is currently called a “hate crime” is already covered under other laws. The entire concept of a “hate crime” is worthless.

   Oh and @ molinoanon, not all 149 of the “hate crimes” were allegedly over racial issues. There were supposedly other causes as well. Religion, etc.

10. Molino-Anon on December 28th, 2011 5:53 am

    That’s actually a really low number to be covering ALL of Florida. Out of all the crimes from the petty to the more serious, 149 over race is really not that bad.