Florida Weekly Government Roundup: Scott’s Train Ride
February 26, 2011
When they started talking about high speed rail, proponents said it was a futuristic concept. And it will continue to be an idea for the future, maybe one that will never happen at all.
The train buffs were rebuffed this week by a governor who said the train won’t be leaving the station on his watch, because it will probably be a failure that will end up costing the state money.
Supporters of the idea railed that Gov. Rick Scott was being unreasonable. A bipartisan group of train backers – from U.S. Rep. John Mica and U.S. Sen. Bill Nelson in Washington to mayors in central Florida to 25 members of the state Senate – thought this week they might be able to persuade the governor to let them work on building the train. They came up with a proposal that would have the state insulated from any future financial obligation.
It would have sent the $2.4 billion already awarded to the state by the federal government to an independent authority that would work with locals and private vendors to get the train going with only minimal state involvement and no financial obligation for state taxpayers.
But Scott wasn’t convinced, and backers by Thursday were saying they wouldn’t be able to go forward without the governor’s approval. There was some talk of a possible lawsuit against the governor, and while it appeared to be mostly just talk, Space Coast area Sen. Thad Altman called the disconnect between rail-backing lawmakers and the new state chief executive a “constitutional crisis.”
If there was a theme this week at the Capitol, beyond the immediate fight over the high speed train, it was another chapter in a developing storyline that has pervaded Scott’s short term in office thus far.
The title of that chapter would likely be “Power Struggle,” but that sort of cheapens it by making it sound overly political. In many ways it’s a fundamental struggle between the new governor and lawmakers over the basic question of who has the authority to do what in this state government.
Scott may not have read the books that talk about Florida as a state with a “weak governor” design.
In addition to manifesting itself in the fight over the authority to spend federal money on a rail project, the theme flowed through other high profile fights between the Capitol first floor and the fourth floor this week – one over state airplanes, and the other over a planned database meant to track prescription drug abusers.
The plane fight was also largely between the governor and the Senate, with veteran Sen. JD Alexander initiating a week long question and answer session with the governor’s office on whether Scott had the legal authority to sell the state airplanes. The Legislature put the costs for operating the state planes, including an air pool staff to fly and maintain them, in the budget and enacted that budget. The law, Alexander notes, doesn’t allow the governor to simply not spend money that’s appropriated by the Legislature.
The constitution also may be in play – because it says only the Legislature may appropriate money. But Scott essentially determined how some state money would be spent when he took the proceeds of the sale of one of the planes and earmarked it to pay off the lease of the other. That’s essentially appropriating money, Alexander said in a terse letter to Scott.
The governor dismissed Alexander’s first letter, saying basically no worries, he hadn’t broken the law. He may not have counted on Alexander coming back and asking him why not? To which Scott’s lawyer responded this week asking Alexander to remind him again what it is he thinks the governor did wrong.
Alexander has wanted the planes sold for years. But the question of who is allowed by law and the constitution to do what is a question that appears to be taken seriously by lawmakers now facing a governor who has never been one of them, and hasn’t gone out of his way to acknowledge their role in the process.
The prescription drug database was created by legislators last year as part of an effort to fight what some have called an epidemic of easy access to pain pills that has other states complaining Florida is feeding their addicts all manner of dangerous drugs they can’t get in their own states.
But Scott – and many others – thinks a database would invade the privacy of those legitimately taking prescription medication and wants lawmakers to kill it. There’s no constitutional or legal question here. The governor isn’t trying to kill the database unilaterally, in fact in this one he’s merely suggesting that lawmakers should scrap the law calling for the database.
Still, it fits into the theme of the week because it points out another place, like the fight over trains and planes, where the governor is at odds with some legislators from his own Republican Party, and portends, possibly, a session that won’t be totally harmonious between the two branches.
To be fair, this story isn’t completely new. Lawmakers sued Gov. Charlie Crist over his efforts to expand gambling without their consent and Crist was pretty much persona non grata in the Legislature during his last several months in office as he left the GOP and vetoed the top priorities of legislative Republicans.
Even Gov. Jeb Bush – who was a hero to many Republicans in the Legislature also had run-ins with GOP lawmakers. The Senate successfully sued Bush after he vetoed part of a budget item for a longer school year pilot project. The thrust of the lawsuit was entirely over whom has the power to do what, and senators said partial vetoes simply weren’t allowed.
But Scott comes to Tallahassee with no government experience – and seemingly little patience for things that don’t help him achieve his campaign promise of creating jobs quickly.
AN EYE ON MADISON
While the aim here is to round up the week’s events in Florida state government, it would be imprudent not to at least mention what was going on in Wisconsin. The similarities have been noted between that state’s Republican governor named Scott and this one’s, but Rick Scott parted company a bit this week with his northern counterpart Scott Walker.
Early in the week Florida’s Scott said during a radio interview, almost in passing, that “collective bargaining is fine” with him. That’s the opposite from the position taken by Walker and several other new Republican governors in other states who think collective bargaining by public employees is certainly not fine.
Whether Florida’s Scott intended to send a signal that he isn’t interested in attacking state employees’ rights to be in a union or not isn’t clear. But that’s definitely the signal he sent and the story quickly gained national traction because it set him a bit apart from a trend in his party.
CIVIL RIGHTS
Attorney General Pam Bondi also took a bold position this week, saying she intends to propose that Florida reverse its move to make it easier for ex-felons to get their civil rights restored.
Bondi made no effort to slide the idea into policy quietly, but forthrightly announced her intention, even leaving fellow Cabinet members and the public time to weigh in on the idea, which won’t come up for a couple weeks before the Cabinet.
Bondi said she simply didn’t agree with the ease with which former felons now can start the process for getting their civil rights back after serving their time. Crist moved to make it easier four years ago after years of complaints, particularly from the African American community, which Florida made it particularly difficult for former convicts to reintegrate into society after doing their time.
Rather than having that process of restoration of civil rights start automatically when felons have served their sentence, Bondi, a Republican, wants to require inmates to start the application process themselves, and only after a waiting period. The issue will likely be before the Cabinet next month.
STORY OF THE WEEK: Gov. Rick Scott continues to fight with lawmakers over who has the authority to do what. He appeared to be the winner of this week’s battle, killing off a proposed bullet train.
QUOTE OF THE WEEK: “I believe that he exceeded his executive authority and in a very strong sense we have a constitutional crisis on our hands.” – Sen. Thad Altman, R-Viera, quoted in the St. Petersburg Times on Gov. Rick Scott’s rejection of a high speed rail compromise proposal that ends, at least for now, the effort to build a central Florida high speed train.
By David Royse
The News Service Of Florida
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14 Responses to “Florida Weekly Government Roundup: Scott’s Train Ride”
It’s amazing how people resort to name-calling and belittling when they can’t otherwise make their point.
I said ‘if the governor’s a thief, prove it’; it is one thing to say it, and another to cite the case and conviction, apparently.
The AG simply wants the reinstatement process to not be automatic; she wants the process to be initiated by the convicted felon and only after a waiting period. Wow that’s really labor intensive!
Defense was the excuse used to build the interstate highway system; prior to that, I guess armies simply didn’t traverse across the country…oh that’s right, they did. As a matter of fact, many states built roads inside their boundaries; many were toll roads as the tolls were used for maintenance. The interstate highways eliminated that from state budgets creating more dependence on federal money. Of course, the interstate system really done a lot for small town America’s economic situations, right?
The oilfields in ND, near shore, and in AK should address our petroleum needs long enough to develop alternative sources of energy. I believe I heard somewhere that new shale finds in ND may be millions of barrels of production-PER DAY!
I guess you can get to the government’s job in your next liberal attempt to justify government’s interference in our lives and daily violation of constitutional bounds.
SW said….
If the governor is a thief, can you prove it?
Why should it be easy for civil rights return to convicted felons?
Is it the government’s job to build railroads and roads?
When gas is $5/gal. will we wonder why there’s so much dependency on foreign oil when there’s plenty here in the US?
I said…
Boy….where to start? There are so many ridiculous statements in your post that I feel kinda ridiculous responding to it, especially since you obviously did not intend it as rational discourse but as flame bait. But darn, I’m a sucker for an easy chore. Problem is, I think there is a 300 word limit on this forum, so we’ll have to cut out a couple of your more outlandish rants for sake of space.
# No one needs to prove the governor is a thief. He’s already paid the fine for it.
# So what would you have the felons do? Plow your garden? Shoe your mule? I mean, why not say something halfway intelligent here? If you are *for* letting them work for the return of their rights, what would satisfy you?
# The question of road building was answered when the interstate highway system was constructed. Yes, it is the government’s job to be sure the nation has a decent transportation system for defense, if nothing else.
# I share your concerns about imported oil but anyone who thinks we have enough oil here in the U.S. to satisfy our voracious appetite for the stuff is either terribly misinformed or willfully ignorant.
Like I said….too easy. Thanks for your time.
I love the liberal mindset; thief for governor? easy civil rights return for convicted felons? spend billions for something not needed (even if it is money we don’t have, and just because if we don’t take it someone else will)? job creation on the back of the taxpayer?
If the governor is a thief, can you prove it?
Why should it be easy for civil rights return to convicted felons? They should have an opportunity to have their rights restored, but it shouldn’t be easy should it? They should have to work for it; they got it free the first time, didn’t they?
Is it the government’s job to build railroads and roads?
Is creating jobs the government’s job?
When gas is $5/gal. will we wonder why there’s so much dependency on foreign oil when there’s plenty here in the US?
The main role of government is to protect our life and liberty and allow us the opportunity to pursue happiness. I don’t believe that includes providing for us from cradle to grave, does it?
“the federal government is offering to pay $2.4 billion”
The fact is that the U.S. is trillions of dollars in debt, so where will they magically come up with this 2.4 billion dollars? With the usual cost overruns, construction delays, etc., the cost for this rail project could potentially skyrocket. This means Florida taxpayers could be left holding the bag, if this ends up being a flop.
At least our governor is smart enough to realize this. Just because it seems like a good deal, doesn’t mean it is a good deal. There is no such thing as “free” money. Economics 101.
1. few will ride it.
2. it will lose money
3 if bill nelson is for it, i’m automatically against it.
4 high speed rail in japan with thousands riding, is losing money
5 any questions?
“Bondi said she simply didn’t agree with the ease with which former felons now can start the process for getting their civil rights back after serving their time”
Yeah we wouldn’t want people to get their rights back, get jobs, and become productive members of society. Do they not have bigger issues in the state to deal with, instead of taking away rights ?
well i thief for a governor is only here for one person and that is his thieving self im sure if he new a way he could still billions of dollars from it he would be o yes lets got to work cause im redy to still more money nd get away with it thats y he is ripping off the citizens of the state of florida now so rick scott get to work stealing agin once a crook always a tcrook
Amen to R Lee Webb.
When gasoline reaches $5.00 and more per gallon, we will wonder why we didn’t support the rapid transit.
It would have been nice to have a governor who would try to make it work without putting the taxpayer on the line, instead of just saying no. His “let’s get to work”, was just a quick NO, without even trying!
@Pete, all forms of transportation infrastructure ‘lose money’. That is why you also don’t see anybody putting up their own money to build highways. Fortunately, most people recognize that the value of transportation infrastructure is not based upon how ‘profitable’ it is. How much ‘profit’ would you say that roadway connecting your home to your local supermarket makes? Also, I’m not exactly sure how you can suggest this would take away jobs from teachers and emergency workers since this is a completely seperate budget.
He can never really make any personal money off this, because of that he don’t want it, he is only but a con man, that should have been in jail, after all that crimes he committed.
The train isn’t really a gift horse, more like a white elephant. Passenger trains lose money, that’s why nobody will put up their own money to build one. The train will draw money away from schools, roads, and police. The created jobs are a fiction, most of the jobs will be at factories that make the locomotives, cars, rails, and other components. The ones in Florida will be low wage and paid out of monies that would have paid teachers and emergency workers.
This a classic example of looking a gift horse in the mouth. Scott wants to create jobs for the people and this rail project is a no brainer job creator. Bill Nelson and John Mica are right in supporting this project. Now I really know why I cast my ballot for Alex Sink…