Class Size Issues Persist For Lawmakers
November 8, 2010
When Florida voters defeated a ballot measure that would have tweaked the state’s class size law, they defeated lawmakers’ best hope for fixing the Legislature’s persistent problem in funding a constitutional requirement for schools to cap individual classrooms at a certain size.
With the defeat of the amendment, lawmakers are trying to figure out their next move.
“That’s a question I don’t have an answer to yet,” said Rep. Will Weatherford, R-Wesley Chapel, who is slated to become Florida House Speaker in 2012 and who sponsored the proposed amendment in the House.
In 2002, voters approved a constitutional amendment that capped classroom sizes at 18 students in a classroom in lower grades, 22 in the middle grades and more than the current cap of 25 students in a high school classroom. Educators noted substantial educational gains as the class size caps were phased in, but lawmakers were faced with the growing problem of how to pay for it, particularly as the economy collapsed and state coffers grew thin.
Educators, in need of more funds to hire enough teachers to carry out the class size caps, were faced with a quandary. If their classrooms were at maximum capacity and a new student moved into the district, where would that student go?
The solution lawmakers came up with was a ballot measure – Amendment 8 – that would have allowed schools to continue to calculate class size caps at a school-wide average, rather than on a per-classroom basis, giving principals more flexibility to add students to their classes without violating the constitution.
On Election Night, 55 percent of voters voted in favor of the measure, 5 percent short of the required 60 percent threshold for proposed constitutional amendments.
The state teachers’ union has staunchly defended the original class size provision, arguing that the softening of the law is merely the Legislature backing out of a promise to fund the schools to a point where they can meet the hard caps. The problem of an extra student moving into a district could be fixed statutorily, they argued, but the Legislature has largely rejected that plan.
“I don’t know how they’re going to respond to the class size, whether they’ll try to wiggle out of it again,” said Florida Education Association spokesman Mark Pudlow.
Classroom caps have been phased in since the 2002 passage of the constitutional amendment, but this fall, the hard caps were put into full effect. Schools that are not in compliance with the law could face fines for the violation.
Administrators across the state largely supported the amendment, despite the FEA”s opposition to the proposal. Florida Association of District School Superintendents executive director Bill Montford, who was also elected to the state Senate on Tuesday, said the failure of the amendment means superintendents will have to make a lot of “tough decisions” and that he doesn’t really know whether lawmakers will try to address it or just leave it be.
“It has been the opinion each year, each session, that there is not a statutory fix,” Montford said. “At least that has been the opinion of the Legislature. However, with the defeat of Amendment 8, I’m certain that issue will come up within the legislative session. What do we do now? Do we try to craft a statutory fix and see if it will stand up?”
Sen. Don Gaetz, R-Niceville, who sponsored the Senate version of the amendment, said he thinks it would be difficult for the lawmakers to legally make a statutory change “to try to dilute the voters’ decision” and that he, at least, would not be sponsoring another ballot measure on class size.
“I believe that the issue is now settled and the losers will be parents and teachers and taxpayers, but that’s the constitution,” he said.
Weatherford said it was likely that lawmakers would discuss a variety of options on how to address class size obstacles when the Legislature returns to Tallahassee this spring for its regular session. The legislative body could pass a statutory measure, he said, but that doesn’t mean its constitutional.
“At the end of the day, the court will probably decide what these caps really mean,” he said.
By Kathleen Haughney
The News Service Florida
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8 Responses to “Class Size Issues Persist For Lawmakers”
ok so why not open century back up as a elemen,middle,and high school it would make class rooms smaller at several schools and the kids could be taught again get century district back to the closed schools and out of city limits to earnest ward bratt and northview can have out of city kids just like other states do instead of putting more kids together and getting bad scores and also create more teaching jobs . Why should our kids have to suffer from someones mistakes maybe we should all home school and see how florida likes that they woulnt get no money for our kids .. Maybe they would open up the school where it was easier on families instead of what is best for their wallet.
NO PITY HERE!!! Ernest Ward and Century schools were consolidated to save money!!
Bryneville and Bratt schools were consolidated to save money!!!
Also schools at Molino area.
Problem solved! GO FIND WHERE YOU ARE USING THAT MONEY AND USE IT TO HIRE MORE TEACHERS AND BOOST THE ECONOMY AT THE SAME TIME.
Our CHILDREN COME FIRST!!! THE PEOPLE HAVE SPOKE! GO KNOCK ON A DIFFERENT DOOR!!!!
I dont think that republicans have anything against teachers. The teachers union (insert democrats) pushed the original class size amendment as a way to hire more teachers. Look it up, there is little evidence or study that backs up the claim that small class sizes result in smarter children or higher test scores. The amendment that just failed was not going to eliminate the class size reductions but give the individual school boards a little wiggle room. There are cases where schools had one extra student for a class and they would be forced to hire another teacher just to cover that one extra student. We have lost common sense with zero tolerance and this is just another case.
I think I’ve come up with a great fund raising idea. Schools can fine the parents of students who are behavior problems.
Come on red light camera lovers. You have nothing to fear as long as your little precious behaves.
Wow, there are some pretty wacky comments on this thread.
It is unfortunate that so many simply want what they want and
will not look at the reality…. someone has to pay for it.
The amendment would have been a good compromise. Maybe
schools should start to charge a ‘user tax’ on parents who
want to support the cost of the class size cap? What about the
benefits the teachers unions mandate? Might a ‘free market’
approach be part of the solution?
…. I guess we will never know. The cuts made to pay for this will
be made somewhere… what would you get rid of to pay for this?
I don’t understand what these Republican reps have against teachers, school and education. Don’t they have enough money as it is? If the state doesn’t have enough money than open up some casinos and start making some
If we could get rid of bluelaws, the state could make a lot more money. They should push to sell more alcohol of higher content in stores such as walmart so they can get the tax revenue. Really, they just aren’t even trying to make any money
Its a win win for consumers , personal freedom and more tax money for the state
Why should the kids be punished? Education is the future, the government says that they want our school systems to be competetive with China and the others of this world. Well that takes some one on one time with these kids yes even in elementry. So instead of cutting education I vote we cut some of the governments incentives!!!!!
Quit closing perfectly good schools for the sake of ratio!!!!!!!!! Spend a little money on the children of the future and quit lining your pockets!
Vacations are wonderful but how many a year do you really need?
Remember these kids we educate today will run the government and make all the decisions sooner than you think.