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Seven Students Arrested Following Fight At Ernest Ward; Bus Driver Injured
March 26, 2010
Seven students were arrested following a fight on the campus of Ernest Ward Middle School that put a bus driver in the hospital Thursday afternoon.
Four of the students were released from jail Thursday night, while three remained in custody overnight.
Escambia County Sheriff’s Office deputies said the fight started about 3:50 p.m. as school was dismissed. The fight began between two students on a bus and escalated into an affray in the parking lot involving a small number of students. Several school staff members and bus drivers tried to stop the fight, and several of them were struck by students. One bus driver was transported to the hospital by ambulance. He was reportedly released from the hospital Thursday night. An unknown number of students and staff members were evaluated on scene by medical personnel but were not transported to the hospital.
The fight involved students from both Ernest Ward Middle School and Northview High School; Northview and Ernest Ward students are on the same buses each afternoon. There were no weapons involved in the fight. Deputies said they did not know why the fight started.
Four of the students arrested were Ernest Ward students; three were Northview students. The students arrested are facing a variety of charges, including battery and taking part in an affray or riot. One of the seven students, a 12-year old that attends Ernest Ward, was not charged in connection with the actual fight. He was charged with resisting without violence and obstructing justice after allegedly tried to grab a deputy’s handcuffs as he attempted to place a female into custody.
All of the students involved has been temporarily banned from the campuses of Ernest Ward or Northview. Deputies said Thursday night that there could be more arrests forthcoming in the case.
The afternoon fight was the second time deputies had been dispatched to Ernest Ward for a fight on Thursday. The Sheriff’s Office said the earlier fight between two students was not related in any way to the afternoon incident. The students in the morning fight were not taken into custody.
There was no school resource officer at Ernest Ward on Thursday; he had been assigned to work another school. Over a half dozen deputies responded to the school after the fight was reported. By the time deputies arrived a few minutes after the school called for help, the fight was over. Several students were placed in handcuffs and taken to the administration building of the school.
Several parents gathered outside the administration building as the students were questioned inside and deputies gathered witness statements from school employees. Hours later, the arrested students sat handcuffed in the hallway and school office as deputies continued their investigation. They were transported from the school about 7 p.m.
All school buses were held on the scene as emergency personnel worked. Most were released about an hour later; some were held on campus as long as an hour and a half.
Two ambulances were called to the scene, along with the Escambia County Sheriff’s Office and the Walnut Hill station of Escambia Fire Rescue.
More details will be posted as they become available.
Pictured top: One of the first deputies to arrive at Ernest Ward Middle School Thursday afternoon. Pictured top inset: Emergency workers on scene at EWMS. Pictured bottom inset: Deputy Scott Mashburn takes an unidentified juvenile into custody. Pictured below: The first ambulance arrives at Ernest Ward Middle School following an affray Thursday afternoon. NorthEscambia.com exclusive photos, click to enlarge.
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155 Responses to “Seven Students Arrested Following Fight At Ernest Ward; Bus Driver Injured”
Yes Friday was not the best day of my life, but it’s not Mrs. Perrys fault. The only reason she did that is for our saftey. We are going to get our field day back after spring break. Mrs. Perry, Dean Dumas, and any of the teachers should not get blamed for any of this. They are the ones that tried to stop it. Ernest Ward is a safe school and most all schools have fights. I’m lucky to go to a school like EWMS because they have a great facualty and staff!!
REGARDING:
“You said spanking kids is as old as humanity itself. That also applies to murder, rape, war, prostitution and devisive religions. The difference is only what we consider legal and illegal. In some countries rape or killing of women for being raped is not illegal…so how does your argument hold up against that? My point is that spanking or hitting children is not necessary. It works but so do mafia techniques of intimidation”
Again, the Mafia has other interests than those of their clients. The parents have the interests of their children at heart. (some don’t but then I define them away from being parents)
You admit spanking works but would remove it from the tools allowed parents to discipline their own children and then might even mock them if their children had problems later in life. I can just hear it, “well the other ways would have worked if you had done them right.”
Spanking should not be the only tool and bludgeoning is not spanking but a tool is a tool.
Interesting technique you use there, though. Comparing spanking to rape, comparing it to prostitution, to war. They aren’t the same but you equate them and include divisive religions. I can see you would outlaw religions if you had the power over others. I’m not sure how you’d exercise the power since time-outs seldom work with adults.
But war? There is no doubt that war is a bad thing and good to be avoided, but there are times when rolling over and being killed is worse. Pol Pot was intending to kill two thinds of Cambodia in the name of his non-religion of Communism and was only stopped by his invasion and overthrow via war made by Vietnam. Idid Amin was also wiping out his own people when his neighbors invaded and threw him out. Hitler was well on his way to wiping out the Gypsies, the gays and even a few Jews when he was only stopped by war.
War is a bad thing. Sometimes not making war is a worse thing.
If we accept your religious belief that spanking children is always evil, we might have to consider not doing so might be even worse in some situations. And, except in extreme cases, we might consider allowing the parents the benefit of the doubt. Especially if we can’t verifiably prove we can do better.
David for long boring lectures rather than spanking but that’s just me
Spanking versus murder? Not even close. Not even a good argument. As for “some countries”–well…we are not those countries. Thank God. Yes, I said God.
A person doesn’t necessarily have to condemn someone because he/she doesn’t condone what some believe an acceptable behavior.
Uv Gotoo B. Kiddingme:
Your logic fails. You said spanking kids is as old as humanity itself. That also applies to murder, rape, war, prostitution and devisive religions. The difference is only what we consider legal and illegal. In some countries rape or killing of women for being raped is not illegal…so how does your argument hold up against that? My point is that spanking or hitting children is not necessary. It works but so do mafia techniques of intimidation, etc. I agree we must assert power over our children to protect them, but that is as far as it should go. Once they know who is boss, that’s enough.
i think that it would be very wise if the principal or counselors reached out to the kids, especially those who witnessed this violent confrontation, and offered/encouraged them to participate in some debriefing counseling….it was obviously an extremely terrifying event for many of the kids..as i read the comment from one of the “ewms students”, it was mentioned that “nothing was said or done related to the fight yesterday”…it just sounds like there are some very traumatized kids out there now that could benefit from talking about it w/a trained professional.
not knocked out–conscious
I ride …. and saw that 4 of my freinds got arrested in the fight. The bus driver tryed to get one of the kids to stop fighting and thats win he got hit and knocked out. It took four teachers to hold one kid and arrest him. It was a horrible thing to see but one of the kids went by my bus smiling in handcuffs. HAHA to him un known name.
Reality…
First of all, do you have a child or children? If so, I would like to know what you call them? Yes, I stated “MY CHILD” in my last comment, simply because of the fact that on this site; most of the time they don’t like you to mention (daughter, son or names of anyone).
You quoted: Nobody gives a damn about anybody else except “My Child”.
I happen to care about everybody and their safety, I don’t like to see people mistreated and I don’t like to see people in danger.. But yes as I stated! It is my child and I look out for the safety of my child, as well as others. I would not want my child to accidentally get into the middle of these fights and something really bad happen, and I am sure or else I would hope that you would feel the same way.
i go to ewms and i ride 1806 and our bus driver went over to go help out and me and some others were scared becaus ewe couldn’t see ehr so we thought she was hurt but she wasn’t. mrs. hanks got on our bus and checked to see if were okay and we were. the fight was pointless and never should have started in the first place. and middle and high schoolers shouldn’t ride togther is so stupid and i ride with high schoolers and don’t have any problems with them. we all get along. and the parents are all to blame and they shoudn’t be the won included with the blame game and actuall y nobody should. nobody is to blame. okay the students who were in it and on the bus, getting the oter bus mad they are to blame.
I’m gla dto have a principal like Mrs. Perry to run our school. She is just amazing at running our school. okay the fight, proved what a good prncipal she and got the fight stoped and had us in complete safety, until it was over. i’m personally glad to have her run our school. she makes a good school and because a fight happened dosen’t mean that its a bad school it just so happened that it just turned really bad and thanks to mrs.perry were are safe.
also DEAN DUMAS, MS. HANKS, THE TEACHERS, AND BUS DRIVERS THAT WERE THERE TO HELP AND STOP IT!!!!
I’M REALLY PROUD OF OUR STAFF AND FACUALTY AT OUR SCHOOL.
oh & i have to admit, today was like prison. but you cant blame mrs perry. she was just making sure we were safe and nothing was said or done that was related to the fight yesterday. i’m sure after spring break, people will be cool and we can be back on regular schedule.
ernest ward is not a bad school, and no one should be scared to go there. the teachers, mrs perry, and the dean and bus driver handled it the best they could. & got hurt as well, so it is the students behavior and there fore, no one should be scared. also, having high school students and middle school students seperated isn’t gonna do much. the middle school students STILL would have got in the fight, so it doesnt really matter. i hope everything is okay, and i’m ready to see my frienddddd
i go to ewmsand ride 1806 and is really glad for our staff and bus driver that helped out and stoped the fight. and the thing whole thing about “high school and middle schoolers shouldn’t ride togther is just stupid. sorry, not to be rude. i saw what happened and i hope that the people who were involoved and were actually fighting and the ones who started the whole mess gets the punishment they deserve. and the thing about evr since God was took out of schools has nothing to do with the fights and i do believe in god. people couldn’t answer phones at our schools is because the fight was huge and they had to stop it before it turned really bloody, they didn’t have the time to make sure someone was there to answer the phone.
i’m really glad the bus driver is okay. he sub for our bus and he’s so nice.our bus didn’t have our bus driver on it so we were super scared that she was hurt-we couldn’t see her. later on Mrs. Hanks had come to check up on us and to see if we were oaky and we were we couldn’t really see the faces up close but some we could we were in the middle of the front and back in line with the buses. glad that everybody is safe.
i am so glad to have a principal like mrs.perry, she’s the best, and she’s going to make sure we are okay no matter what the cost. she is not at fault for this if any thing she’s doing a wonderful job at our school.
our bus driver was one of the people helping stop it. we were really scared she was hurt because we couldn’t see her. so we were really freaked out(well some of us, of course not the guys but me i was) i’m glad everything is okay.
THANK YOU, MS.PERRY, DEAN DUMAS, THE BUS DRIVERS, THE TEACHERS, AND EVRYBODY ELSE WHO STOP THE FIGHT!!!!!
Today was horrible ! It felt as if we were in prison . Everyone was escorted by a sheriff to go anywhere . We had to walk down the halls as if we were in handcuffs . My parents are unsure abour my saftey at EWMS !
Wooooo Whooooo Angi did you hit the nail on the head. You go girl. That is what is wrong with this generation MYCHILD. Well, by crackins start teaching your chil to be a responsible human being instead of running and whinning every time someone looks at him!
Thinker you obviously are not one of your namesakes. Spanking children is as old as humanity itself. It has always worked well in the past, so to suddenly feel that you know better than an anthropologist doesn’t make any sense. Do you work for DCF or just hate that you got spanked as a kid?
REGARDING:
concerned on March 26th, 2010 10:37 am
“To Northview Student, yes, that is the problem teenagers do not listen to their parents or anyone else for that matter.”
Whereas I’m remembering more than once hearing a student say, “MY Mama told me not to take nothin’ off o’ nobody ! !”
In this case the problem was that the teenager DID listen to his parent. (not talking about the current discussion, just previous discussions and other fights)
REGARDING:
Thinker on March 26th, 2010 1:15 pm
“Molino Jim: So, you believe that whipping a backside is the solution? What you are saying is that an adult should model this behavior as a way to deal with behavior that they don’t like in another person. Isn’t that what the kids were doing?”
I’m not him but I suspect the answer is NO. When a parent tries to correct his child, he has the best interest of the child at heart, even if what he does isn’t perfect or best. I don’t think those throwing blows in most fights are working for the good of the person being struck.
I suspect you are implying the idea that if violence is ever the answer, violence is always the answer and if violence should ever not be the answer, violence should never be the answer. People who believe this would disarm the police and the military. Of course, they couldn’t disarm the militaries of foreign countries, but they figure if they simply disarm OUR military, all the others will see the error of their ways and do likewise.
It’s never happened, but many keep insisting it WILL if we ever try, despite the fact that we have downsized our military many times in the past only to have some other nation go to war anyway.
REGARDING:
“The kids now a days couldn’t care less what people think. of them, and most parents agree that this is okay. I tell you something else you can’t wait until they are almost grown to start trying to change them, You have to start when they are old enough to understand right from wrong.”
I added the n’t, but agree with all but the idea that they don’t care what people think. The problem lies quite often with trying to impress their peers, in this case other children. You very seldom get much of a fight without a good audience to impress. Further, no matter how bad a kid is in a group, you can usually get along just fine with him one to one. It’s just when the try to be part of the crowd that the ignore right and wrong. Assuming they know right and wrong in the first place and usually a brother or sister will introduce the concept even if nobody else does.
REGARDING Stuart::
Well said. People CAN get along if they choose to do so.
For the most part they do.
When they don’t, it makes the news.
David knowing every day is a potential adventure
I still don’t think anyone has said what the fight(s) were about. I would like to know. I hope the bus driver is doing well today. I bet these kids involved never thought they’d be arrested and hauled off in squad cars. Their parents must be so proud. Then again, the apple doesn’t usually fall far from the tree.
I haven’t seen this even mentioned on any other news outlet.
Fights (on the bus) several years ago were the reason I took my child off the bus completely and started dropping her off and picking her up from school in the second week of school. She kept being dropped off late because the bus driver had to pull over and wait for the cops to show up. My child wasn’t involved in the fights but I feared for her safety and decided to provide her transportation myself and make sure she got home safely and on time. I continued to drive her until she could drive herself. Here’s an idea……how about providing bus transportation only for the students who know how to behave? Kick the rest off permanently and if they don’t come to school……well, they didn’t want to be there in the first place. It’s time to kick the troublemakers out of school permanently. Then you will see test scores really rise because only the kids truly interested in an education will be there. Schools will be safer, teachers will be happier, kids in attendance will learn more and the rest can go dig ditches for a living or sit in jail. I’ve had it with the n’er-do-wells. Sink or swim.
i realy dont know why people do this kind of stuf.And i’m going there next year
and i’m not sure if i want to go to a place like that!!!!!
Does anyone know what the penalty is nowadays for chewing gum? I had a teacher that would make you put your nose against the blackboard and draw a circle around it. Then you would have to stick your gum in the circle, and stand there with your nose stuck in your gum.
Molino Jim: So, you believe that whipping a backside is the solution? What you are saying is that an adult should model this behavior as a way to deal with behavior that they don’t like in another person. Isn’t that what the kids were doing? Weren’t they whipping on each other for what somebody did or said? We don’t whip adults and we shouldn’t whip (or paddle) children. Anyone else believe this?
There are other ways to resolve conflicts starting with turning the other cheek and right on up there with mediation, communication, etc. Middle school children are going through that “tribalism” stage of development where they jockey for power and position in the the “tribe”. Later in life it will hardly matter except in politics. Mutual respect is what we want to teach and paddling and whipping does NOT foster that.
The Sherrif’s office knows who started that fight and what it was about. When are they going to tell us so parents know what to look out for or talk to their kids about?
The fight happened right in front of my bus.
Trace,
I couldn’t have said it better. I once had a student sitting behind me as I drove a school bus. I had just reached cruising speed, when he, holding his jacket by the sleeves, threw it over my head and face and pulled my head against the back of my seat. You better know someone was in real prayer for the bus drivers.
I have prayed that that wounded bus driver is ok. You all have an awesome job that everyone should have to experience, before they judge. School buses NEED a grownup to watch the kids while the drivers drive. That is truly a NEED!!!
First of all I have no kids at Earnest Ward and Im not taking sides with anyone .But no one knows yet what actualy caused the fight ,I dont expect kids or teens to run around fighting but at the same time they sometimes have to stand up for themselves ,my son knows he is not to start a fight or get involved in a fight unless it is a last resort and he has explained to me and his principle that he has had some problems or whatsoever ,and is to avoid the fighting if possible ,but if the person or persons continue to give him trouble and start a fight only in self defense he should fight only to protect himself and if it does come down to that he is also aware that he should apply a good country butt whoopin on them and more than likely he want have trouble from them again ,But take a look around this country was built on fighting and still is ( escpecially last 9 years) so therefore No fighting is a little contridictive ,Sometimes you have to ,has a last resort ,,so who is to say the start of this may have been a long time coming and may some of the kids may have felt like they had to defend thereself ,Just stop and think about it ,instead of blaming the schools or the parents ,O yea by the way you heard the standards I set for my son ,He has never been in a fight ,,,???
Thoughts on” PRAYER” IN SCHOOL:
Prayer, as I knew it in school, was “saying” what we call “The Lord’s Prayer” every morning before class, before auditorium and sporting events. It was good for only one thing, and that was to put us in remembrance that there is a God in Heaven, to whom all will answer, and to show us an outline of what prayer is about, and what our attitude and mindset needs to be, when we pray. For it was every day, and was more “saying” than “praying.” As I became aware for myself, of what The Word of God says, however, I began to question some of our “traditions.” Especially after I found this:
“But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.” Matthew 6:7
I began to question many things after that. It led me to a “pit” for a while. But, when I called on God for help, He picked me up out of that mire, and set me in a “Gold Mine.” He is no respecter of persons. He will do the same for all who come to Him with a repentant and hungry heart. That is what REALLY makes the difference…..when it is real and not just words.
To Northview Student, yes, that is the problem teenagers do not listen to their parents or anyone else for that matter. I think discipling starts at home, and if they don’t get it there they will act like heathens when they get out in public. You can tell when a child has been raised right, it scares the crap out of him or her,when they messes up. The kids now a days could care less what people think. of them, and most parents agree that this is okay. I tell you something else you can’t wait until they are almost grown to start trying to change them, You have to start when they are old enough to understand right from wrong.
After reading this story, I am thanking God that I am free to homeschool my children! It won’t surprise me if that right is taken away in my lifetime BUT, for now, it’s the best option for our children. I’m praying our government leaders won’t take that right from us–ever!
Having read every response you first sense fear on the part of parents. When the students arrive at home it shifts to blame. The latest entries are more well thought out and calmer.
Through the whole situation the students responses were consistent, level headed and calm. Sounds like we have a lot of pretty good young folks around here.
as i sit here reading the various comments, the one from “angi” caused me to pause…she feels, as i would venture to say, the way ALL parents feel about having access to and a natural authority over their minor children while attending public school …well, of note: in the last several days, it has been reported (on the #1 national news program FOX) that a 15 year old girl was taken BY TAXI during school hours, without the permission or knowledge of her parents, to an abortion clinic to end her unwanted pregnancy…only MONTHS later, while the child was at the phyicians office for an unrelated issue, did the mother even find out about this covert event, as the child was instructed to “NOT TELL her parents or the abortion would not be free” …outraged, of course, that the school would dare take authority of her childs physical condition without her knowledge, she complained…but, IT WAS TOTALLY LEGAL in the state of washington, due to a vague, deceptive consent that the mother had signed (at the beginning of the school year) in which she gave permission for the school to take her 15 yr old child OFF CAMPUS for needed “emergent health care”…according to FOX reporting, washington state IS NOT the only state that follows this practice…and, this type of usurp of parental authority has been going on for years…bottom line, if i had school age children, i would be reading the school consents carefully and asking specific questions prior to signing anything.
To the seven students who were arrested yesterday, I hope this unfortunate experience has served as a valuable lesson to you. Actions (planned or not planned) ALWAYS have consequences and can change and/or alter your future if your not careful in an instant.
I highly recommend that in the future, every student should stop and think with the brains that the good Lord gave you and ask yourselves this, is what I’m about to do worth it and how will it effect my future and those who love and care about me?
Also, middle and high schoolers, you really, really need to work harder on your native “English Language” skills as many of these post sure reflect that it’s definately not up to par!
AMEN MOLINOJIM!! I’m proud to say that this was my school back in the day, and frankly, I wish we’d go back to some of the ways we used back then. Of COURSE there were fights back then…of COURSE some teenagers will always be hotheaded and disrespectful. But I’ll tell you, back then, middle schoolers and high schoolers not only rode the same bus together…hello, we went to the same school! No one would have tried to involve a bus driver or a teacher in their fights back then because they actually had fear of reprisals. And by the way, I’d like to have seen a kid try to attack Ms. Freddie Amerson, my bus driver…they would’ve got a lot more than they bargained for, haha! She was tough as nails and you did what she told you to do. And like MolinoJim alluded to, there was such a thing as corporal punishment, and it was USED. I wouldn’t have wanted to face Mrs. Van Pelt or any of the other teachers or admin in the principal’s office back then! Parents, please don’t blame the schools for keeping your children so long…with the stuff educators face today with lawsuits being flung at them for parting their hair the wrong way, it’s a wonder the kids got to come home before midnight. You have to cover your fanny six different ways to make sure that you are not held liable for anything. I just wish we could have a dose of the old days, when a) kids had fear that something would actually happen if they chose to act out and b) we didn’t have to make a circus out of these situations just so that no one would be “offended” or “violated.” Thanks to Mrs. Gindl-Perry for being a tough and good administrator…I had her as a teacher and I’d trust her with my children.
hey stuart little times have changed they dont get along like that anymore….especially when family is involved
It seems some of you all might have forgotten that about 15 years ago Middle Schoolers and High Schoolers spent the entire day together in that very facility. Some of road buses for over 2 hours together twice a day.
It can be done.
I was a teacher for 5 years. After my children became school age, I decided to home school. That was 19 years ago. So glad I did. It was worth it. I was able to see what needed to be corrected in my child at ALL time.
Try it.
I am glad the bus driver is okay, they have a very hard job. Yesterday a school bus driver in Pensacola ran a red light and every comment to the Pensacola News Journal was crucifying the driver for making one mistake and demanding her dismissal from the job. Nobody questioned what might have caused the distraction…..screaming kids, a fight, horseplay among the 38 children in the bus??? Neither God nor the Devil is to blame for children that have no respect for authority anymore – just take a a look in the mirror. We all are in support of a society that no longer requires individuals to accept responsibility for their actions. Luckily it was the bus driver that was injured by a fighting kid yesterday – had it been reversed, the bus driver and the School Board would face a law suit brought on by parents defending their innocent little angels. And – like always – we all would condone a big financial settlement by sitting back and keeping quiet.
Enough comments here to write a book. Anyone want to attempt it? My beef, having counseled young people in my day, is that nobody wants to talk about WHY they were fighting. How can you defuse a conflict without knowing why it happened? The story does not provide this simple answer to the most burning question in the readers’ minds.
Fights do happen. I agree with Brad. All I’m saying is that if my lil brother or something was getting jumped on or something, you best believe I’m gonna be throwin hands myself. That’s how big stuff like this happens. A couple ppl got beef with each other so they battle it out. That’s all good and stuff, but when someone’s friend loses, they gonna bust out and take up for them. You got people like me who know nobody can whoop me, and you get a bunch of them together, it’s bound to break loose.
Angi,
Take “Your Child” out of the public domain! This is a huge part of the problem now days. Nobody gives a damn about anybody else except “My Child”. The responsible parties in this situation were looking out for “All” of the children. It seems that you have an opinion on everything and a solution to nothing. I hope and pray that I have taught “All of the children” that I have mentored over the years to be wise and strong enough to survive the collapse that we are headed for. I’m sick and tired of hearing “My Child”. Who is going to bottle feed this generation who has in large part never had to deal with the reality that life is not fair? It can be quite fun and managable though if raised without the attitude of entitlement! This hide behind momma generation goes into shock at the slightest whisper of “No”.
Fights happen. This doesn’t make a school safe or unsafe. It’s not necessarily how the kids are brought up either. The kids make the decision. I understand that there should be some disciplinary action, but for every to freak out about it? That makes no sense. People get on here and think they know the whole situation and automatically assume that events like this will often occur. When is the last time you have heard of a fight like this at Northview or Ernest Ward. It’s not a common occurance. It’s not really even that big of a deal. For the people saying that they are scared to go to school or let there kids go to school… that’s ridiculous. If the don’t get themselves in the situation they won’t get in a fight. I know. I’m in high school. We are about to have spring break. Everything is going to cool off and no one will care anymore. So quit complaining about the faculty not doing there job or the parents upbringing. You don’t know the whole story so therefor you cannot make a valid assesment of what should be done.
This was the second of two fights. Good grief! What is becoming of Ernest Ward? When I went to school there (eleven years ago), I don’t remember ever seeing a fight on campus. This scares me. If this is what school is like now, what will it be like for my daughter when she gets of school age? As a student-teacher, I see how teenagers act, and it confirms my belief in homeschooling. Why would I want to send my child to a place where she is distracted in the classroom? Why would I want to send her to a place where fights break out multiple times a day? This is ridiculous! What is wrong with this generation of kids?
I agree with EMD. I grow weary of seeing the English language butchered on a daily basis.
I think if students got beef with each other, they should be able to take it out with boxing gloves. Let them fight. Take the butt whooping, and move on and don’t try it again if you can’t handle it. People need to stop being so weak and add some toughness to their lives. I bet if I walked up to a dude that was flirting with my girlfriend, and I just stole off all up in him, he wouldn’t do it again. He learned his lesson. That’s how you teach people.
I’m sorry EWMS had problems yesterday, but it is my understanding that the Transportation Department needs to be addressed. Supposedly school times of
start and release were set up as to where NO elementary, middle or high school students would be on the same bus at anytime. Either there are not enough buses on the road or somebody has let this fall by the wayside. Again we are north of I-10, but unless things have changed at no time in P’cola are there different schools on the same bus. To the bus drivers and the faculty of EWMS you handled the situation good. It would be nice to have a deputy permanetly at the substation in Walnut Hill for this very reason.
I really don’t think the high schoolers should be riding the buses with the middle school students either. I do hope the bus driver that was sent to the hospital (due to stupidity by these children that were fighting) is doing alright. Glad to know that things were not any worse than was, but it is pretty bad when cops, ambulances and fire departments have to go to a school; because of stupid situations like this. These children should be at school to learn and to further their educations, if you wanna fight then call Roy Jones and sign up for boxing, join WWE or get started into joining the service; school is not the place for this kind of behavior. All of the trouble that you get into through your years of going to school, will follow you throughout your life, and if you have any plans on going to a good college, well guess what? If they see that you’re always a trouble maker, then they’re not going to want you in their college. I have never understood why kids wanna fight like this at school, it is very childish. Why can’t they all just get alone…And I guess I would have probably been arrested too, because if my child was attending this school; and I went to get MY CHILD. There is nobody and I mean nobody going to tell me that I can’t get my child!!! I carried my child for 9 months in my body, I gave birth to my child, I feed, put clothes on my childs back, I raise my child and discipline my child, I try my best to teach my child right from wrong and to be polite and have respect for others etc… So, I don’t care who you are; you’re not gonna tell me I can’t get my child! Hope school goes better for these children throughout the remainder of the school year…
To “Blaming ”
okay, maybe school prayer is not to blame, maybe it is the lack of God at home. I agree.
But the lack of God at home escalated when school preayer and bible reading were removed from the school. Look at the printed facts, not to this forum for deciding that question.
The year before they removed Prayer and bible reading the teacher’s biggest concern in the classroom across this country was a big one – dangerous even – students chewing gum in class.
Now, its guns and killing.
This country has lost the standard on which it was founded. No apology from me, I believe what the Founding Fathers did – imperfect humans cannot govern themselves effectively without God. Don’t believe me? GOOD, look up their statements when they wrote the constitution and see for yourself.
Mrs Perry keep the faith your doing a good job but it was the end of the day when the kids hormones are running wild. Another problem we have in our county can be seened by just looking at how the writing is in these blogs are. I also think this is very clear why we don’t need high school and middle school students in the same bus.
To Boy Student: Yes, we do over-react to school fights. At one time in parents lives, we all dealt with our sons (never worried too much with my daughter) getting into a scuffle. That’s been awhile and when I did have to deal with it, it was settled in an afternoon. My son was grounded and he lost out on time from his classes. Times have changed! Now, we as parents and grandparents must worry that some kid with a short fuse has what he feels needs to be SETTLED; brings a weapon to school and starts his plan of action.
That’s why we, as adults over-react to school and off school fights. It’s sad to say the least but that is the truth of the matter. Sadder still– situations are getting more violent with our younger generation.
No,EMD,you are not the only one who notices this!! ” I mean well you know “……….
If the report in this article about the injured driver being released from the hospital
is accurate…THANK GOD!!
It could have been so much worse for everyone involved!
To presume that this fight was the result of students not participating in organized school prayer is ignorance at its finest.
First off, prayer and religion belong at home and church, not school. I do not want teachers or administrators determining the type religion or prayer in which my children participate.
Secondly, to state that this type thing didn’t happen when we had school prayer is equally ludicrous. This type behavior has been occurring since the beginning of time, even when school prayer was permitted. The Bible itself is full of fights and wars. I am well over 40 years old but still remember being in a few scuffles back in the day. The old adage of boys will be boys will always be true, so let’s be realistic.
The problem today is parenting or the lack there of, not prayer! But common sense will tell you that even the best parented child might sometimes make an error in judgement, it is up to us adults to ensure that they learn from these errors.
the bus driver is OK and is home.
MRS VAN PELT WOULD HAVE WHIPPED ALL OF THEIR BACK SIDES AND SENT THEM HOME TO HAVE MAMA AND DADDY DO IT AGAIN. AHH THE GOOD OLD DAYS.
My heart goes out to the bus driver that got hurt,not one comment on here even really asks about the condition of the bus driver or what the bus driver sacrificed to jump in an try to control this fight!!!!! If the community around us only knew how many Qualifications there are to be a BUS DRIVER this day & time….Not only do we #1..First priority:Get Your Precious Cargo Home Safely, #2… You have to be REFEREE !!! #3… A Babysitter!!! #4 See every move that has been made on the entire route home….& still drive SAFELY .#5…Just Pray you have EYES in the back of your head!!!!Well to sum it up & .. let all of you have a some what picture in your head of what we do each day!!!!Picture yourself driving down the road ……….1,2,or 3, kids in the back seat….Watching traffic being safe with the drivers we have now days…then all of a sudden you hear a loud cry …..something just happened in the back seat…. RIGHT BEHIND YOU …but how could you see it when you were trying to watch the road……………………YOU WOULDN”T……Now…..Just Imagine 65…to….85 …OF YOUR PRECIOUS LIL ANGELS sitting behind us and trying to fulfill all of those QUALIFICATIONS & EXPECTATIONS!!!!!!!!Try it sometime….You might change your Opinion!!!! Praying for the bus driver that took on another Awsome Bus Driver Task that adds to our list of EXPECTATIONS!!!!
EMD….THANK YOU!!…..in addition to your comments regarding the spelling/punctuation posted on here, i would like to add my two cents, as well…too many teenagers and young adults seem to be gravitating towards this new type of lingo, such as “dis”, “dat”, “ova”…and, the like….im not understanding how these young folks (who routinely write/speak like this) can believe that they are headed towards a successful career of any sort…i see this on facebook all of the time…i dont understand why some feel compelled to speak like this…my neice does this, as well….only worse, and shes in college…in this day and age when there is such job competitiveness, teenagers and young adults need to utilize every tool available to them in order to enhance their attractibility to employers….and, good grammar is way up at the top of the list, in my humble opinion…
TO ALL PARENTS THIS IS WHAT I DO EVERY MORING AND NIGHT ALL THROUGH THE DAY WHEN TALKING WITH MY CHILDREN AND GRANDS TELL THEM TO PUT GOD FIRST IN EVERYTHING YOU DO, CALL SATAN A LIAR DONOT LET HIM CONTROL YOU. TELL THEM YOU LOVE THEM ALL THE TIME HUG THEM I DO THIS TO MY OLDEST WHICH IS FORTY MY YOUNGEST WHICH IS THIRTYTHREE CALL ME OLD FASHION BUT ITS WORTH TRYING
My daughter is a 6th grader @ EWMS and I must admit that I’m impressed with the staff there. We came from the Alabama school system were we were also happy but I was wowed by the teachers @ EWMS. I’m kept updated on my child’s progress and can reach them via email almost anytime. I spoke in length to my child to make sure that she felt comfortable going to school tomorrow and she says she’s fine. She feels that this was an isolated incident and that there shouldn’t be any further problems. It’s unfortunate that this happened. I admit to being one of the nervous parents when she didn’t get home from school on time but I’m glad that the children were kept safe and that staff handled the situation promptly. I’m not going to speculate on the parenting of these children…because while I am…mine could be getting out of control. But I’m glad that it wasn’t worse and I will continue to pray for those who required medical treatment. I must say though that my daughter is VERY proud to be an EWMS Golden Eagle.
no one needz 2 b talking about the fight on the way 2 6th period 2day they have the resolution and no one needz 2 b discussing that manor leave it alone!!!
Yall are over reacting and make it seem like people was getting killed. Ernest Ward isn’t a bad school, and no one should be scared to go there. I know the people involved, and one of them is really close to me and he’s not disrespectful. Everything will be okay! I hope i’ll get to see my friend again, sooooon!
ya know im 18 and its pretty screwed up that later when i have kids they wont be able to attend these schools because its gotten so bad that you wonder what will happen next.
Folks, you can get mad at me if you want to, but kids now days , so many are very disrespectful, and the parents just choose to ignore it. I am not talking about all of them, but you that have those kids know who you are. When discipling and God was taken out of the schools that changed all that we grew up believing in.All of you that believe that discipling is wrong, then your kids are the trouble makers and that I am very sure of.
A big Thank you to Ms Perry, staff and the emergency services who handled the situation quickly and professionally.
I was in a bit of a panic when our boys bus didn’t show, But I understand that a lock down is necessary for everyones safety.
Tomorrow is going to be an interesting day, and good luck for those students who maybe distracted by this with any testing they have .
i hope they dont cancel our field day
My daughter goes to Ernest Ward and she said there was “also” a fight today in one of the halls when everyone was changing classes going to 6th period between two boys. I told her if a fight ever breaks out in school like that DO NOT stand around and watch, get completely out of the way of danger no matter how many other kids stand around watching because the inocent are usually the ones to get hurt when something like this happens. They need to be taught what to do in situations like these today.
hey hope the bus driver is ok
im a student at ewms and i know some of the kids the mostly my friends but two fights in one day thats crazyness
EMD, this is what the FCAT gets you……oh yeah, this is as good as it gets down here, and people want their kids in our schools?!?
@ Alabama Resident…….THANK YOU!! That has been my point the whole time…Our shcools aren’t much better. And WHY people would LIE, CHEAT and probably STEAL to get their kids in our schools, I will never know?!? Be honest, and raise your children with some manners…And MY child was one of the ones who didn’t get home till 5:40….ridiculous, and HEADS SHOULD ROLL!!!!!!! Proper procedure WAS NOT taken…and we all know it!!!
there were two fights today! That is crazy. but it doesn’t necessarily have anything to do with how they grew up, one of the boys is really nice and not at all disrespectful. fights happen and theres nothing you can do about it. there is also nothing wrong with middle and high schoolers riding the same bus.
I think everyone is over reacting fights happen every day that’s life. People should stop playing the blame game when really there is no one to blame unless it’s yourself.
Thanks.
Trying to read some of these comments is really difficult. From the poor spelling and sentence structure (or lack of it), in most of these comments, it sounds like many of you need to pay more attention to studying, and some need to go to school or go back to school. I know that my spelling is not 100% correct all the time, and I am not an expert on punctuation, but I do believe that any educated person can read what I write. This is pathetic. I am sorry. I am not trying to be mean, but I just cannot let this go on any longer without making a statement. I know quite a few people from other countries whose native tongue is not English, and they can write and spell circles around the majority of the writers here. It is embarrassing. I do hope you will try to actually learn something in school. If you do not, then what is the point in going? I have even heard those who say they are teachers, who need to go back to school. Maybe that is part of the problem. Am I the only one who notices this? Or is the English language now, “anything goes?”
wow, what a crazy day.
Ok, putting MS and HS kids on the same bus should never be a problem. All ages and grades should be able to sit on the bus and behave for the 30 minutes or less it takes to get home. Is is the parents fault, partely. Is it the school, a bit. Is it the bus drivers, again, some. Is it the kids involved, totally. It’s time to teach our kids responsibility. No more of this “so and so is picking on me because I’m (fill in the blank).” I hear it every single day, over and over again. It’s not my fault. I’m behaving badley because my parents didn’t buy me the latest video game, or most expensive pair of sneakers, or missed a ball game. :Life is rough and it’s time these sweet darlings learn to deal with it. Stand up and take responsiblity for your own actions. I can’t say it enough. “YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR OWN ACTIONS!” No one else can make you do anything. It’s always your choice. Ok, getting off my soap box. Glad the driver that went to the hospital is going to be all right. Too bad it had to happen again.
Everyday I hear I’m going to fight Im going to fight him do we do anything no we stand there and say don’t do it or do it beat em or if we try to breake up a fight or even tell them not to when there about to our just push someone away from a fight they call us instigating a fight and tell us we will get a refrall or go tell on someone they ask us to point out the person and that just starts another fight because you told on someone i hear that everyday he told on me I’m going to whop that I new every one of the kids did I think they would ever get in a fight yes did I think they knock out a buss driver or punch a teacher no not at all and that was the second fight of the day to and for the people that say just because there was a fight were a horrable school i bet every schools had at least one or two fight now why aren’t they bad schools they’ve got In fights to It just don’t make our school a bad place if it were that bad no one would have steped in to try to solve the mess in the first place I saw from my bus about ten teachers guys and girls runing out there to stop it if it was a bad school no one would have even tried to stop that so stop saying our school is a bad place just close your mouths if you don’t know anything
IM A STUDENT AT EWMS AND IT WAS CRAZY BUT NOT CRAZY ANOUGH TO HOLD US AN HOUR AND A HALF AN NOT LET OUR PARENTS COME GET US.
PLUS I HAD A BASEBALL GAME SO I WAS LATE,BUT PARENTS SHOULD RAISE THEIR KIDS WITH DISAPLINE.IM NOT SCARED TO GO TO SCHOOL TOMARROW AT ALL AND IM PREETY SURE NO ONE IS TOO AND I HOP THEY DONT CANCELL THE FIELD DAY TOMARROW!!
SINCERADLY-CONCERNED PEOPLE
It’s not their parents fault, or anything to do with “homelife.” i’m good friends with one of these boys, and he’s not disrespectful or trying to cause trouble with anybody. Like forreal. I mean fights are gonna happen any and everywhere anyways, on school campus or not.
People need to stop talking and blaming EWMS or NHS it’s what happened you can’t stop it but i mean there’s no reason to blame one person it’s what they all did and they know it was wrong because they are really good kids that go to Northview I mean I dont know about Ernest Ward but i pretty sure that they are good kids too. I hope the students get to come back to school soon… There are fights. yes maybe not all the time but it happens. thats just that.
Thank God for Pensacola Christian Academy! It’s a sacrifice but sooooo worth it!
It’s the parents. If the student hasn’t been taught social skills, it’s only partly their fault. “As the twig is bent, so grows the tree” is still a true maxim, and as a former teacher at EWMS, the great majority of parents were just the best at correcting the occasional errant behavior of a student. Should the very poor behavior of a few rob the great majority of good students of their learning opportunities and freedom to learn in a fear-free environment? Some children need to be left behind, and the others moved ahead.
The school could probably use a few more male teachers, though.
The more I read the “tone” in many of these comments, the clearer it becomes why so many kids are so disrespectful.
Nobody should even be scared on what happened. I mean it was intense and all, but not bad enough for any one to be scared to death. I want to see more pictures though.
*- I hope my friend is okayyy, (:
WELL THIS IS HOW I SEE IT PEOPLE CANT SIT THERE & BLAME IT ON THE “HOME LIFE” SO TO SPEAK BECAUSE EVERYONE KNOWS TEENAGERS DO NOT LISTEN TO THERE PARENTS 100% OF THE TIME !!!! I KNOW “THE STUDENTS INVOLVED FROM NORTHVIEW & THEY DO HAVE RESPECT & ARE VERY NICE PEOPLE SO PEOPLE DONT NEED TO BE SAYING IT IS THE PARENTS FAULT CAUSE ITS NOT !!! YES I GOT HOME LATE BUT OH WELL LIFE MOVES ON !!!! I HAVE NO FEAR OF GOING TO EITHER ERNEST WARD NOR NORTHVIEW !!!!! COME ON PEOPLE LETS BE REALISTIC HERE NOT LIKE PEOPLE RUNNING AROUND WITH GUNS OR ANYTHING FIGHTS ARE GOING TO HAPPEN AND FOR THE BUS DRIVER WHO GOT HURT & TEACHERS COME ON WE ALL KNOW DONT TRY TO BREAK UP A FIGHT BETWEEN MORE THEN TWO PEOPLE BAD RESULTS BUT THEY WAS DOING THIER JOB !!!! I LEAVE IT AT THIS THINGS/FIGHTS HAPPEN EVERYDAY CANT BLAME IT ON THE PARENTS !!!!!
FYI:
these same kids have been causing trouble (i know this from personal experience) and like someone else said is that it wasnt the first fight. public schools all over are facing this same thing: violence. so instead of blaming the students, or faculty, or family home life. lets look at everything as a whole, these students have been going to seperate schools now they are combined and high schoolers are thrown in with middle schoolers on top of young kids gettting preggers and drugs and all of it will escalade. To bad we cant come together and work on this as A COMMUNITY instead of pointing fingers. and when i say work on this as a community i dont mean shoving beliefs of one religion down the others throats what happened to just good morales?!
TO START OF ALL THE MOMS THAT HAVE KIDS IN THIS SITUATION KNOW HOW TO RAISE THEIR KIDS…ESPECIALLY MINE…SO FOR THE BRATT MOM WHO THINKS WE CANT RAISE KIDS…NEEDS TO GROW UP…BECAUSE YOU ARE BEING FOR CHILDISH WITH THE SITUATION…AND NO THESE KIDS SHOULD NOT GET EXPELLED..BECAUSE MY BROTHER GOT TO THE POINT WHERE HE WAS FED UP WITH THE DRAMA…SO HE DID WHAT HE HAD TO DO…SO LORD HAVE MERCY ON YOUR SOUL…..
And to think that many of my fellow Alabamians would sell their soul — and find any piece of land that had a light pole on it so they could claim it as their
“residence” — to have their kids be able to avoid Alabama’s public schools and attend Ernest Ward Middle School and Northview High School . . . Are things really any better?
SOME PEOPLE OVER REACT TO FIGHTS
to know your neighbor- fyi its a high schooler so get your facts strait
Man I am glad I moved and dont have to deal with these idiots anymore! Some of you are cool dont get me wrong but this is the most stupid thing I have ever hear of!
“why cant we be friends,
why cant we be friends,
why cant we be friends,
why cant we be friends?” -War
A shout out to all of my friends at Northview you guys are the best and i miss ya!
To NHS Mom:
When there is a fight at the school, the police have to be called. They normally will take them to jail because it’s illegal for them to fight on campus. I know this because I worked at a middle school last year (teacher) and we had an SRO and he would take them to jail when there was a fight. Also, the students were prosecuted and normally would have to do community service and go through a big brother program. There were times when they would have to attend an alternative school if they were expelled from their school. To all the people who are concerned about EWMS, it is a great school and Ms. Perry does a great job. When my niece and nephew went there, I wouldn’t have asked for a better principal to run the school. I pray that everyone is okay. God Bless everyone!
Praying that he gets better soon. Glad that it wasn’t anything serious.
I was there in ems. We stayed until nearly the last bus was able to leave.
There was NO blood on scene. There were no students injured or transported to the hospital. Only one adult was transported.
High school students definately have NO business riding the same bus as middle schoolers. That makes no sense at all.
A few parents, some who said they didnt even have students on the buses, came to the school, parking on the sides of the highway and stood there gawking. It was very dangerous for them to be parked along the roadway.
But one thing that really struck me was the huge difference in the behavior of students on different buses. On some buses, the students were sitting down, being quiet and behaving. On other buses practically all the students were standing,jumping around, hanging out the windows, yelling, being loud and obnoxious…basically acting like a bunch of ignorant hoodlums. What a shame.
Poor guys. I know both of them from school. & I dont blame them one bit for what they did. If I saw someone jump my little cousin I would wanna beat the crap out of them too.
I AM REALLY WORRIED THIS IS THE SECOND FIGHT IN THE SCHOOL TODAY AND I AM SOOO TIRED OF GETTING IN THE MIDDLE OF THESE STUPID FIGHTS
I THINK THAT THE ONES WHO THREW THE FIRST PUNCH SHOULD BE IN TROUBLE AND I THINK IT STARTED OVER SOME STUPID MESS AND IT SHOULDN’T HAVE BEEN RESOLVED THIS WAY BUT OUT-OF-SCHOOL IT WOULD HAVE BEEN MUCH BETTER AND SAVED THE STUDENTS A LOT OF TIME AND THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN HOME EARLIER WHILE THEY GOT THE PARENTS RUNNING CRAZY ABOUT THEIR KIDS AND I THINK THAT THE PERSON WHO STARTED IT SHOULD BE ARRESTED AND THOSE WHO WERE IN IT SHOULD BE ARRESTED.
The school isn’t at blame for what happened. It is a public school ya know. And as a student, I wasn’t scared, most the people I talked to weren’t either. We just wanted to get home and end our school day not be held and extra hour. Its been a rough week, with exams and not being allowed to walk in the grass and spring break coming up. It wasn’t the first fight today either. Our teachers do what they can. We’re teenagers and are bound to get in trouble, so please before you go accusing students I know who didn’t do anything or arent bad, check your facts.
Kayla- there is no need to be scared I go there and that stuff rarely happens so dont worry there are people there to keep you safe:)
TICKED ABOUT MY SON GETTING HOME LATE, I AGREE, THESE KIDS SHOULD BE EXPELLED AND THE PARENTS NEED TO GO TO CLASS ON HOW TO RAISE THEIR KIDS WITH RESPECT AND MANNERS ! LORD HAVE MERCEY! THANK YOU TO ALL THE TEACHERS WHOM PROTECT OUR KIDS AND THANK YOU LORD ABOVE ALL !
dadgum the one time something happens im not on the bus
it wasn’t kids off 1406. it was kids from 3106…five (5) of them going to fight several other kids from 804….they were pushing thru the closed doors on 3106 and jumping from the back doors of 3106.
the driver tried to contain the kids on 3106 to keep them on the bus.
Hope no one was seriously hurt today at the school. No matter how careful teachers and leaders try to be, something like this can still happen. Our children today do not always think before they act. A young person can ruin their whole life with one thoughtless act. Parents and guardians need to be vigilant with their children.
You can say what you will and you may be a straight up good teacher,staff whatever but let me tell ya honey it has always and always will be about our father in heaven you see it is our job as a god fearing loveing ,Christ following people to educate kids about the lord and if they dont get it at home growing up were are they gonna get it because laws dont allow for it to be in the schools. I too work for the school district but not EWMS and if i hear a child take the Lords name in vien or say something like I cant see him so how do I know he is real well job or no job I am going to do what is right because some children hear others talk about God but too embarrassed or for whatever reason dont speak up and ask questions but they wonder . So what your saying is “sorry kid if your sorry parent dont teach you right oh well we know who to blame but choose not to help find a solution. Sound like some teachers I have heard about like if you dont learn what im teaching today oh well I must move on .. What happen to people so quick to think its not your place to teach either subjects
I have a few family members at ewms. Including my son!!! I think that the staff there done a great job…They took an out of control situation and handled it well in my opinion!!!!! they are only humans as we are. I do think that prayer needs to be put back into our schools. But for those that don’t teach right from wrong at home prayer is not going to matter. I hope that noone was seriously hurt and that the ones doing harm and putting fear into our kids are punished!!!
We are now living in times that many children are being raised with a lack of respect for themselves and towards others. They walk around with a chip on their shoulders and are selfish, rude and act very hateful towards those who they think might have it better than them.
It sure seems to me that their has been a major breakdown in the last 2-3 generations that lack many of the traits that many of us grew up being taught such as… Christian values, Self esteem~Confidence~ Love~Motivation, Respect for ourselves, others and for our surroundings and most of all, hope for the future.
Teachers can only do so much with students who come to school with a unhealthy mindset. These children need love, respect, direction and to feel like they are a priority in their parents lives. Until this can happen with every single child, I’m afraid there are always going to be fights at some point or another!
i was on the bus and couldn’t see anything much but the police and ambulances pulling up. it was crazy with people trying to break up the fight.
my bus was the second last to leave. i got home right at 6:00
What is wong with children today is this: Parents are not allowed to punish them like they should for fear of Child services getting into it for no good reason and taking your kids away.Sticking them in a home where they could be abused or worse. They dont keep up with it after they get your money in court and place the child they have done their job. The schools cant be responsible because they are so under staffed there is no one to watch what is going on. Budget cuts is all they complain about and it is always the childrens fault no matter what. The kids are falling through the cracks. So all I can say is home school your kids that way they are safe with u and not in the screwed up system It will ony get worse folks.
Teach them at home.
I totally agree with my fellow bus driver!!!I was right next door waitin to go get my kids and couldn’t…..That isn’t right!!!!!But yeah when the weather gets hotter it will get hotter with the kids!!!!!Bless your heart my big cheese buddy I just hope your O.K !!!!! I’m Prayin for you!!!!You just need to stay in that seat man….It ain’t worth it!!!!!
More observant than most………hit the nail on the head! These children have no guidance at home..there in lies the problem!
The fight was not on a bus, it was outside and the driver who was injured got off the bus to try and break it up.
I’m glad no one was worried about answering the phone, this means everyone was on hand to help control the situation. I was on the phone with my son, who witnessed the entire event and he was not frightened at any point and felt the situation was being handled.
from i understand the bus driver involved was taken to the hospital. and i stand by saying thank goodness my little brother and sister are homeschooled because the kids who started this are the same ones who JUMPED my little brother a while back. The problems do come from the homelife and not from the school i understand ewms do what they can and me being a former student of mrs. perry (gyndle) i know she did what she could BUT there were red flags before this.
It saddens me to see and hear things like this. There is an alarming trend with today’s youth. There is a blatant lack of respect for authority and each other. When the family unit starts to break down at home the residuals often manifest themselves within the community. Respect and discipline is something that should start at home. We need to teach our children to be respectful and teach them discipline. We can not just expect them to do this with out instruction. Respect and discipline are learned behaviors. This does not mean all are bad apples. It is difficult for the community to compensate for things that should come from the home. I wish there was a successful big brother / big sister program, or similar in the area to provide services and assistance to these students who so desperately need the positive interaction and role models. I hope there were not any severe injuries.
I totally agree with my fellow bus driver!!!I was right next door waitin to go get my kids and couldn’t…..That isn’t right!!!!!But yeah when the weather gets hotter it will get hotter with the kids!!!!!Bless your heart Kevin I just hope your O.K !!!!! I’m Prayin for you!!!!You just need to stay in that seat man….It ain’t worth it!!!!!
to know your neighbor
that boy was a high schooler and he rides my bus
i rode bus 17-06, i didnt see the whole thingg but that was scary !
I just have to say this for all of these people blaming a fight on taking prayer out of schools . We need prayer–in school, at church, at home–everywhere. But, as an educator, I can tell you that these fights are usually caused from poor upbringing at home. PLEASE quit blaming everyone’s problems on the schools. If parents would take more responibility and make their kids more responsible, we could solve a lot of these problems without even getting the school involved.
to KNOW YOUR NEIGHBOR my son is in 6th grade his 13 years old he is 6 ft tall 245lb and he is in good shape he is going to be on the football team so just because they are big dont make them bad kids my son has never been in trouble
REGARDING:
“northview dont have a clue whats going on ??????”
They knew what was going on but were a bit busy at the time. They were dealing with the situation as best they could.
how many times are they going to allow one particular student to contiue to go to public schools. I believe he has been in trouble a number of times. Get him away for our kids. Kids get in trouble there for chewing gum, kidding around, and other juvenile things. Having to call the cops should be enough to expel them.
and to wondering have you lost your mind.
@kayla
Don’t you worry at all darlin. I’m a father of two girls who attend Ernest Ward. It is a GREAT school, staffed by the very finest teachers and Principal in Escambia County. Things like this happen everywhere. You will love going to Ernest Ward. My kids love it and I as a parent am glad they go there. You will love Ms. Perry and her teachers. Just remember this, it is very important you pick the right people to be friends with. Hang out with kids who want to learn and have fun doing it. Hang out with good kids and all the problems will escape you.
as a bus driver I thought the whole idea of middle school and high school riding together was a very STUPID idea anyway “but hey it keeps cost down lets not put our children first” As a parent it peeves me off to no end how we have no rights when it involves our kids I dont care what the situation is if I go to that school to get my child they Should have to give her or him to me,but listen up parents THEY DONT I know that first hand..Just waite till summertime gets here they will be hot tired aggravated you will see more of this.. I am not justifing any of it just telling it as I see it.To my fellow drivers be safe
well i just got home. i think it was ridiculous they wouldnt let us go to the bathroom. when we left there was chaos. it smelled badly of peroxide or alcohol. i heard they used it to clean up blood. im an ewms student and i remember everyone trying to call there parents.
post some mmore pics
Yeah. Even after it had been broke up they were still trying to go at it I don’t know exactly why they were fighting but it seems really stupid IMO you may think different but that’s what I think. Hope tomorrow goes smoother than today I just got home and I usually get home at 4:30 pm but it was like 5:35 when i got off the bus at my stop. ~Northveiw Girl~
And I think that there was both high school and middle school involved not sure but its what i heard.
Correction to my earlier statement: it should have read that I DISagree with wondering…I don’t see where anything has improved since they took God out of school. It is getting worse and will continue to get worse.
My girls are home and are ok.
can you post more pictures. we didnt see anything until we left the school an hour later! thanks.
It’s not the lack of God in the schools. It’s the lack of putting the fear of a good old whooping from a stern teacher or principle in the hearts of those kids. God will sort out the heathens at the end of their life.
I am going there next year and i’m scared…
16-05 is droping kids off
when the kids go to any of the staff member and tell them about someone that going to fight they tell them if you get in it you will go to jail and they dont do any thing else about it so the staff needs to start doing something about it before it happens and high school do not need to be riding with middle school kids
Susan,,
I think Wondering was being facetious.
Ash 26 You need to speak with more respect, esp to adults. Though, I am aware that some adults do not do so either. That does not mean it’s ok. Why not try to set an example for others, even some adults?
17-06 just got home
my son just got home!!! he rides Mrs. Reid’s bus.
who drives 1406?
There’s nothing wrong with our school theirs fights every were every day it just happens that we had a big fight it’s not the schools fault the school didn’t tell them to fight
no it wasnt 1406 because i ride 1406 and they let us go but we could still see the fight….i am pretty sure that it was 8:04
@gatorgirl///they could not take any calls since practically the whole staff had to maintain the gates and go over to the fight.
what teachers and bus drivers were involved?
Wondering….. I disagree with you, ever since they took God and prayers out of the schools, the problems have become worse, NOT better.. dont know how you see it better.. with the increased number of teen pregnancies, and all the fights and drugs and killings in the schools now a days… things that you barely seen back in the day. If you call that better without God, Lord I am praying for you…….
okay and the comment below saying stuff about that is a big kid ! i go to ewms and that kid has not failed any and he aint that old ! people can be tall ya know ! so get ur facts straight
Students are not allowed to be taught to care about and take care of one another as that may be considered nreligious. See what happens when
“survival of the fittest” is being taught. You certainly can’t blame God for these
problems as he has been thrown out of our schools by the powers that be.
HOMESCHOOL!!!!!
it was 1406
this is what gets me whay are they holding all busses and nobody will answer the phone at ernest ward and northview dont have a clue whats going on ??????and yet there has been No phone calls
What five buses are still being held at Ernest Ward?
See this is what will happen when the county tries to be cheap and put schools together it has been proven once beforeat woodham middle and now it is being proven once again here at ernest ward ! ! !
Does anyone know which bus # this was?
buses just left
Wondering….I have to agree with you. Since they took God out of everything in school this is what happens and now that they are taking Him out of our country, this will be happening all over the place all the times.
I just talked to my girls too and they are fine, they have left school but they are very shaken by this.
I pray that the injured are going to be ok.
We need to put some tougher punishment back into schools. It is only going to get worse. God bless our schools and our country, we are going to need it.
This is why i am glad my little brother and sister do not any longer got to this school. They are homeschooled, Thank God. Kids can cause a lot of danger and we all know this I believe it is time to stop living in the 50’s and realize that kids are more worldly now more than ever and can cause just as much damage as adults. Especially when these children are failed students that should be shipped off to charter schools. Let the good kids soar and grow without this crud.
THE BUSES JUST LEFT THE SCHOOL! THANK GOD! JUST GOT A TEXT!
Know your neighbor,
I had just made the same observation. However, I have seen young kids that were quite large for their age.
GATOR GIRL, I’M WORRIED TOO BUT I TALKED TO MY DAUGHTER THAT IS ON THE BUS AND SHE SAYS THAT THEY ARE SAFE! WE WILL JUST PRAY IT STAYS THAT WAY!
MY child is up there in harms way and nobody knows whats going on she dont even go to that school she goes northview,,,,,,and i was just told that anybody picks their child up they will get arrested
Ever since they took prayer and Bible reading out of school things have been steadily improving…..
Anybody else notice that?
That looks like a big kid for a middle school student with the arresting officer in the picture. Must be one of those 16 year old 8th graders that can’t make the grade.
OMG…I hope everything is okay!
DO YOU KNOW HOW LONG ITS GONNA BE?? U STILL ON SCENE?
MY DAUGHTER AND NIECE ARE THERE ON THE BUS AND TEXTED AND SAID THAT THERE WAS SEVERAL FIGHTS AND THAT A BUS DRIVER THAT TRIED TO BREAK ONE OF THE FIGHTS WAS BEING PUT ON A STRETCHER, NOT SURE OF THE EXTENT OF HIS INJURIES. THEY ARE ON COMPLETE LOCK DOWN TO GET ALL STUDENTS THAT WERE INVOLVED, AND FROM WHAT I AM UNDERSTANDING IS MUCH MORE THAN 2 STUDENTS. OK, I’M NERVOUS NOW, I WISHED THEY WOULD LET THE BUSES GO SO THAT I CAN SEE MY DAUGHTER AND NIECE